Enhancement advice

[Jimbonxz]

Hey there. i was just looking for some feedback on my sockets/enchants etc and if im doing it right or wrong. also. im currently pulling about 14k on heroic dummy without cds. is this high or low?

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...andaman/simple

planning to get landslide as soon as i get two nice weapons from raids,

[Deleted]

Imo you're doing very well. Personally, I think your weapons are good enough for Landslide enchantment (since the only better weapons are heroic ones, and I don't know how intense you are raiding).
The DPS on the dummy is fairly high, I'm stuck on mostly heroic blues and only pull about 11k DPS (on the other hand, I'm not the best enhancer, but I'm doing my best).

[Deleted]

well your hurricane on offhand should be avalanche until you get landslide. Boot enchant should be Mastery instead of haste. But in general its all about freeing up as many sockets as possible for agi gems since you cant reforge for Agi. So reforge for hit/expertise caps gem for agi, but usually socket bonuses in cata r very good so keep that in mind.

Once you have all your caps done reforge any ecces haste for mastery since haste is our worst stat.

Concerning your dps on dummy's i have no clue been ages since i was last there

Might overlooked something since i'm half asleep

[Pylon]

Just looking over your armory quickly, there are a couple things you could throw gold at if you wanted (belt buckle, agi wrist enchant), and probably a few gems/reforges you could change. Haste on shoulder -> Expertise would help you regem/enchant towards agi rather than hitting those caps.

Honestly though, 14k without CDs seems good in your gear.

[Jimbonxz]

Aight. cheers peeps. and im actually starting heroic raids now. so i hope to receive a couple good weaps soon. and if i were to use landslide on my vicious weaps i wouldnt afford it when i get the hc weaps

[Aertea]

Aight. cheers peeps. and im actually starting heroic raids now. so i hope to receive a couple good weaps soon.

Considering the only Heroic raid weapon for Enhancement drops off Nefarian, don't count on it.

[Gradish]

I would agree for the most part with what others have said, but a quick look at your armory and I noticed a few things others didn't mention.

There are quite a few better pieces of gear obtainable through heroic dungeons with better stat values on the items then what you currently have. Those items wouldn't need to be reforged and you'd be able to lose a lot of haste for straight hit instead of reforging for it. Unless your raid group is clearing bosses with no issues and upping your personal dps wouldn't really have a huge impact on the groups ability to clear content, you could start there too.

On a side note if you wanted to replace your pvp weapons there are two BoE's: MH - Claw's of Agony and OH: Maimgor's Bite.

[Acidbaron]

Wouldn't have picked up the chest but gone for the gloves and another piece such as the cloak or relic instead.

[Daverid]

There are quite a few better pieces of gear obtainable through heroic dungeons with better stat values on the items then what you currently have. Those items wouldn't need to be reforged and you'd be able to lose a lot of haste for straight hit instead of reforging for it. Unless your raid group is clearing bosses with no issues and upping your personal dps wouldn't really have a huge impact on the groups ability to clear content, you could start there too.

On a side note if you wanted to replace your pvp weapons there are two BoE's: MH - Claw's of Agony and OH: Maimgor's Bite.

Like he said since Resilience is useless... Claws of Agony and Maimgor's is the best .. Or Crul'thok and Maimgor's ... Sadly there either BoE or from Nef. So the time until you can obtain these weapons could be a very long time, or soon depending on your luck.
On the topic of weapons, you should take Hurricane off your Off-hand and replace with Avalanche.

Also Haste on your boots is pointless. I would turn that into Hit so you can take some hit off something else and turn it into mastery.

There's alot of minor gem and reforge changes you could make, in addition to some different heroic items that would maximize your itemization. Sadly though there's Lots and lots of little changes and it's too much to explain over here.

All i can say is here's my Enhance Shaman ... http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ìdë/advanced It's an Alt, but i've always been a huge Enhance Enthusiast, it's just i've obtained way too many rare mounts and achieves on my warrior i don't want to swap mains and have to get stuff again :S

A couple important things to note... The "Sandshift Relic" is from the last boss of Heroic BRC and is the BiS Relic, even beating the 359 valor one. So i'd suggest running BRC whenever possible to obtain that relic.
With some minor stat changes, you should buy / craft the Mail Belt... With a 50 Hit Enchant on the boots and the Sandshift relic you could easily turn the crit from the Corded Viper into Hit and you'd gain all that mastery and Agi from the 346-359 UG.

Finally just a note : The BiS ilvl 359 gear would include HEAD and SHOULDER tier, with the chest and legs being those which my shaman is wearing (Magmaw legs and Maloriak Chest). Understandingly Head and Shoulder is the hardest tier to obtain, so if the shammy is your main you've probably taken the right choice, but always be on the lookout to obtain the Maloriak/Magmaw items as once you obtain the Head/Shoulder they will replace your current tier items.

Good luck with your endeavors 14K dps on a raid dummy is still perfectly reasonable for your gear setup. There's so much purging and interrupting on fights in the current Tier anyway that if you are a little lower in dps but have 30 interrupts and 10 purges then your much more of an asset

[LyskaWF]

Why are we all of the sudden allowing and responding to these threads? Read the FAQs FFS.

[Desminn]

spend the gold on one if not both of the BOE weapons as you wont soon be replacing either anytime soon...unless you got heroic nef on farm?

that or hope they drop on a run for ya as it will be very unlikely there will be 2 enhance shaman in a run and niether of those weapons should go to any other class.

other than that like a lot of people said you really only have some min/maxing to do....BUT you have a LOT of min/maxing to do. once you optimize your gems/chants you should see a difference.


with new weapons (at least one and get a landslide enchant on it) and the min/max changes id bet youd see about a 1k...possibly even up to 2k spikes in diffrence in dps w/o cds.

[Acidbaron]

Why are we all of the sudden allowing and responding to these threads? Read the FAQs FFS.

Boredom

[Deleted]

Why are we all of the sudden allowing and responding to these threads? Read the FAQs FFS.

Funny you mention that, especially since the first two replies are also giving bad advice :s

@Sahdhiera :
He's using pvp weapons so the boe raid drops (agony + maimgor's bite) are better. To be honest if gold is a problem it's probably best to stick with avalanche and get landslide after 4.1.

@Mithranlas :
You're talking about not having the option to reforge to agi but you're telling him to put mastery on boots? What about the 35 agi enchant?
Quick test with enhsim gives me these EP values (checked with threadstarter's gear) :
mastery 1.22
agility 2.53

mastery enchant to boots = 50 x 1.22 = 61
agility enchants to boots = 35 x 2.53 = 88.55

Agility is obviously better

[gynshon]

well your hurricane on offhand should be avalanche until you get landslide. Boot enchant should be Mastery instead of haste. But in general its all about freeing up as many sockets as possible for agi gems since you cant reforge for Agi. So reforge for hit/expertise caps gem for agi, but usually socket bonuses in cata r very good so keep that in mind.

Once you have all your caps done reforge any ecces haste for mastery since haste is our worst stat.

Concerning your dps on dummy's i have no clue been ages since i was last there

Might overlooked something since i'm half asleep

Boot enchant should be +35 agility, not Mastery or Haste. The socket bonuses in cata still aren't good enough except the Chests and Helms usually. But if you lose a 10 agi because you are using a 20agi/20 hit and the bonus is 10 agi, that is fine if you are making your caps elsewhere. Because we have such a high demand for hit right now, it can be difficult to find the right optimizations that work.

Concerning weapons, there are 3 you could get. Claws of Agony from BoT Trash(MH), Crul'korak from Nef (MH/OH), Maimgor's Bite from BWD Trash(OH). Save the cash until you get one of those and then Landslide it. Also work up the cash for a Darkmoon Hurricane card. It literally is the best trinket you will get for a long time. Better than the 372's.

---------- Post added 2011-03-25 at 08:15 AM ----------

Also Haste on your boots is pointless. I would turn that into Hit so you can take some hit off something else and turn it into mastery.

There's alot of minor gem and reforge changes you could make, in addition to some different heroic items that would maximize your itemization. Sadly though there's Lots and lots of little changes and it's too much to explain over here.

All i can say is here's my Enhance Shaman ... http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ìdë/advanced It's an Alt, but i've always been a huge Enhance Enthusiast, it's just i've obtained way too many rare mounts and achieves on my warrior i don't want to swap mains and have to get stuff again :S

A couple important things to note... The "Sandshift Relic" is from the last boss of Heroic BRC and is the BiS Relic, even beating the 359 valor one. So i'd suggest running BRC whenever possible to obtain that relic.
With some minor stat changes, you should buy / craft the Mail Belt... With a 50 Hit Enchant on the boots and the Sandshift relic you could easily turn the crit from the Corded Viper into Hit and you'd gain all that mastery and Agi from the 346-359 UG.

The Sandshift is 2nd BIS to the 359 Valor one. +35 agi > 50 hit to boots.

MAIN STATS WILL ALWAYS BE GREATER THAN SECONDARY STATS. Laymen's terms? Agi > anything else except for wpn dps.

[psyched]

Ginshan sorry m8 but you are wrong.
http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=56316;64671
At least check stats on items before you post.
Sandshift is BIS, by a small margin but it is. If Golganneth had Hit or mastery it would be BIS for us.

[LyskaWF]

Ginshan sorry m8 but you are wrong.
http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=56316;64671
At least check stats on items before you post.
Sandshift is BIS, by a small margin but it is. If Golganneth had Hit or mastery it would be BIS for us.

It might be (or the vicious one for that matter) with the devaluation of hit in the patch.

[gynshon]

No I am not wrong. 12 agi gain is > 64 hit. Main stats before secondary all day long, every day. It may be BIS for your particular gear set because you aren't pushing the envelope yet, but don't make a general statement that it is BIS when it actually isn't. There are so many items with hit out there it isn't funny, as we are reforging large chunks of hit to Expertise/Mastery. BIS list changes depending on your current gear, and stat changes.

Simming with changing up the 2 relics and reforge choices to get as close to the caps as possible still puts the 359 above the 346. Every time.

I am already reforging 219 hit away, so why in God's earth would I want 64 more hit?

[Tides]

He's most likely saying it's BIS cause some setups says it. Classic example of reading a bis list without simming it for yourself.

[Tumble]

It might be (or the vicious one for that matter) with the devaluation of hit in the patch.

I dont understand why I keep seeing you post this. We are still going to have to be at 1742 (spell hit) to not miss with our shocks, shileds and maelstrom LB's. Considering alot of our dmg is done via spells I cant see hit being devauled enough to make us go under the cap. If you would explain why this is and maybe post where you are getting the information that would be helpful. Also, you have a really shitty attitude towards alot of people on here, you need to calm down and take a second befor you reply to stuff.

[psyched]

@ Gynshon and Tides

When I say BIS I didn't mean for me, I meant BIS for enhan shaman which is the list that is in EJ. I dont think that setup is "some setup".
If any of you can beat that list please do so and post it.

And I do "push the envolope", that's how I roll.