you break into someones house, you dont deserve sympathy, yes the guy didn't need to shoot them multiple times and should have called the police after they were shot, where the kids armed?,i believe in defending your home and valuables and robbers need to be taught a big lesson and a message needs to be sent so others will think twice
notice how the link they are saying how good these kids were and how they shouldn't be demonized, its their faults for robbing
I'm really not sure how having your house getting broken into repeatedly makes you think, DEADLY FORCE KILL THEM EXECUTE!!! If every time they break in they take stuff and try to avoid you. Like what the fuck is that about? It's no longer self defense and more about revenge for his stuff at that point.
Fairly unambiguous case: the kids were stupid for stealing; geezer wasn't right in the head for doing what he did. Nothing new, and something that is bound to repeat itself.
I understand what you mean, but i disagree.
The first thing, calmly waiting is basically what any rational person do. You're safe, and the other is almost chanceless. I guess most of us have done it in games, being a "camper". It's a calm, logic behavior.
The guy that got shot in the face could be said to be affect, or happening in the heat, so he could go away with that.
The butchering of the girl is completely insane, and mostly the reason i'm so disgusted by how much people defend his right to do it.
It's the end of her and how he even tells it afterwards that makes him rational.
I guess he's a psycopath. Knowing what is right and wrong, but not having emotions for people but himself.
I don't know how the laws is there, but here you get jailed, if you know what's right and wrong, and chose to ignore it, like he most likely did.
Everyone has so much to say
They talk talk talk their lives away
I wouldn't personally do anything, because this sort of thing is fixed on a larger format than in my personal life. But how many stories of this nature come from Australia? You could find MAYBE one or two, but you would be hard pressed to even do that. It is a structural change to the legal system which helps to prevent homicidal outcomes of minor crimes and it works.
This is what makes it even worse. If the same people keep robbing you, and not attacking you, at what point do you snap and go I must defend myself to the point of executing them? It wasn't self defense, it was "the next time they break into my house I am kill them"
Seems more like first degree murder now instead of 2nd.
Shouldn't have tried to rob his place then. Sure, it was overzealous but it's hard to have sympathy for them.
Well, you'll excuse me if I think it's better to give people guns for protection than to make them live in bunkers with no windows.
Also, just for the record, if you ever see me break into your house to steal things, feel free to shoot me in the head. At that point I absolutely will deserve it.
The night is dark and full of terrors...
Everyone needs to read Minnesota Statue 609.065 before commenting again.
There's no "reasonable belief" that a teenager that has been shot and lying on the floor is in any way going to inflict any harm or commit a felony. This was murder the instant he fired again.609.065 JUSTIFIABLE TAKING OF LIFE.
The intentional taking of the life of another is not authorized by section 609.06, except when necessary in resisting or preventing an offense which the actor reasonably believes exposes the actor or another to great bodily harm or death, or preventing the commission of a felony in the actor's place of abode.
Last edited by Rukentuts; 2012-11-27 at 03:40 PM.
I would not kill em,i would cut off theire legs with a chainsaw so they cant rob people anymore.
Yeah but when you have a security system with alarms and all that, it is a clear deterrent. This guy kept getting broken into and decided to straight kill them. Every time he got broken into there wasn't a threat to his life, and they didn't have weapons, so exactly why did he decide to kill them? It merely wasn't self defense.
But keep in mind, when i say crime prevention i don't necessarily mean locks or security systems or bunkers. I'm talking about educational reforms minimizing criminal activity in youth, limiting or restricting access to lethal arms, situation crime prevention like increasing patrols in high crime areas. Stuff like that. Giving someone a gun does nothing to structurally correct the issue at hand.