also the only jobs that are disappearing are jobs which require hung amount of repetition or require minimum thinking on the persons behalf. Any job with any human adaption is safe as computers and therefore by extension software and robots cannot adapt as they require step by step instructions. As another person pointed out above the number opportunities in semi skilled labour (such as tradework) is greatly increasing as well.
Like I said, even if people were to get a degree in a field, it doesn't guarantee them a job anyways, it just increases their chances by a good deal. There have been quite a few occurrences in the past few years where college grads with degrees and even masters sometimes couldn't find a job because companies preferred hiring people who already were working in the industry before them, even though those people are going to retire in < 10-15 years. And trust me, some of those people barely know how to operate more modern machines.
There have been countless examples of successful people who are famous around the world who have dropped out of high school and even college who have made more money then they would have made at a while collar job, some of those people are rather recent even. Just because they didn't get a college education doesn't mean they aren't capable of finding avenues of success on their own. But I will admit the chances are slim.
Still, you haven't answered my question about how you plan on fixing the issue of job occupations being finite in the tech and engineering industry, cause i can assure you there isn't enough positions for everyone, even when the industry is growing right now.
Fod Sparta los wuth, ahrk okaaz gekenlok kruziik himdah, dinok fent kos rozol do daan wah jer do Samos. Ahrk haar do Heracles fent motaad, fah strunmah vonun fent yolein ko yol.
one again its not just about maintaining the machine. Its about all the research and development that takes place to actually come up with a idea for a machine, develop prototypes, test them improve them, create a working model, test it, and then build it in large-sale for public sale. And then all the continuing research and development required to continually improve that machine.
We need a war, and then less reproduction.
Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.
Just, be kind.
This argument that machines have taken our jobs has been going on for like a hundred years now.
yet somehow we manage to have more and more jobs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite_fallacy
there are also things called new markets.
how many people worked with computers and software 30 years ago? 100s?
how many now? millions?
I dont need to as o explained above the jobs that are disappearing are which require hung amount of repetition or require minimum thinking on the persons behalf. Any job with any human adaption is safe as computers and therefore by extension software and robots cannot adapt as they require step by step instructions. As another person pointed out above the number opportunities in semi skilled labour (such as tradework) is greatly increasing as well.
Basically jobs for uneducated people are disappearing. Jobs for people with proper tertiary education (and i dont mean dud degrees some people take) or for people with most vocational traing the jobs still exist and are expanding.
http://www.psfk.com/2012/11/burger-making-robot.html
Robots do that too.
I second this. A college bachelor's degree in ANYTHING is what a High School diploma was 10 years ago. Most jobs above "shit tier" require you to have some incarnation of a college degree for no reason other than "you went to college, you played their game, you payed them 10's of thousands of dollars and all you have to show for it is this embossed piece of paper."
No, I'm not bitter about the state of education and jobs in this country. No. Not at all.
"Do not only practice your art, but force yourself into its secrets, for it and knowledge can raise men to the divine." -- Ludwig Van Beethoven
This is nothing new.
Damn horses. Dey took our jewbs.
Damn trains. Dey took horses' jewbs.
So on.
People are always looking for ways to make life easier. Being worried about the natural consequences of that such as these is not smart. And that's not even the main problem. The point is, what would you do about this? Call for everyone to start doing everything manually again? Maybe we should do just that. Say, stop using any tech in construction. Think of how many jobs that would create! We'd be drowning in jobs.
This is the natural progression of things. Most of those being negatively affected by it have to change and adapt if they want to have a proper life.
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Oh, and BTW:
www.thevenusproject.com
Edited Highlights
Completely new-designed city society
Resource-based Economy - no money
Robots do menial work (from manufacturing to even building houses) - freeing people to pursue their own interests they enjoy
Resources regulated via computers - no presiding ruling government needed.
Efficient designs for all aspects of society - making all needs localized and easy to acquire for all.
Not designed to solve every problem - designed to simply be a better solution and foundation for society.
I doubt I'll see this realized in my lifetime, but I do believe this is where we're headed.