Will running LFR grant you a REAL legendary in 5.4?

[Usagi Senshi]

My favorite part of this thread is all the "raiders" who are crying about someone else being able to get their toy too, absolutely delicious.

OT: Don't like it? Too bad! It's gonna happen

Its how I feel and I'm a heroic raider. People are getting WAAAAAAY too butthurt (OMG, MY SPECIAL GEARS, NOOOOOOO! LOL NUBS) over something that's already going to happen regardless.

Besides I'd be super pissed because my three alts wouldn't be getting the item I've been working towards for over a year.

[zknm7]

Legendaries quit being legends when 10 mans were able to get them. Thank Firelands for the fall of legendaries.

I don't agree with you, Red. As you know, in Cataclysm 10m ceased to be the "easy mode/normal" raid and was tuned on par with 25m in terms of difficulty.... hence the same ilvl rewards, etc... therefore, it made sense to be able to obtain legendaries in 10m, since many 10m-only raid teams and guilds would be subjected to going 25m just to get the legendaries for some of their raiders if they were only obtainable in 25m. I don't feel like the size of the raid in which you work to obtain legendaries has anything to do with how "legendary' something is, but that's just my opinion.

[Glaziola]

I think a great solution to all the drama would be to simply give all difficulties a legendary, while the starter version of the weapon or w/e would be LFR ilvl. Then there would be an upgrade quest that requires you to kill the last boss on normal/heroic mode depending which you have chosen your weapon gets upgraded. LFR raiders will have the worst version, normal raiders the mid version and heroic raiders the BIS item.

[Deleted]

The 23k dps hunter will recieve his legendary, don't worry.

[Deleted]

Fact: Legendary should be ALLWAYS obtainable through LFR/Flex/Normal or HC as Blizzard Legendary-Quests since MC times where only a question of TIME you invest and nothing more....

When Blizzard implement a Quest-Line for a legendary that requires SKILL and not the wasting of at least 24 other peoples time come again...

[DechCJC]

I think a great solution to all the drama would be to simply give all difficulties a legendary, while the starter version of the weapon or w/e would be LFR ilvl. Then there would be an upgrade quest that requires you to kill the last boss on normal/heroic mode depending which you have chosen your weapon gets upgraded. LFR raiders will have the worst version, normal raiders the mid version and heroic raiders the BIS item.

I don't think you understand why people are annoyed, you just aren't meant to have a legendary unless you actually did something.. well.. Legendary to get the item. It's not about stats, stats are useless if you aren't planning to actually progress into harder stuff - It's about looking flashy, standing in SW/Org and /afking while everyone inspects u. Ok, that's not literally it - But the 'special snowflake' argument is in fact what drives most players to play this game (Well, most players I know), that desire to BE that one person who has that amazing item, nobody gives a fuck if it's LFR, normal or heroic; People want to see unique items that people RARELY even look upon, there's nothing legendary about even a heroic Legendary if there's a LFR version of it. Why can't we just make it a rare item then? Make Normal an Epic or something? It's the point that it's 'legendary' not that it has stupidly good stats that makes people want it.

[matters]

Yes we will see a orange fest. The legandary will end up being a loyalty bonus for having subscribed enough time during this expansion to get through all the grinding of stuff sigils, valor points etc.. I really do not see blizzard suddenly saying oh no normal/heroic raid only. It is a loyalty bonus item and well thats it.
The funny thing is I've got no idea what we will end up getting at the finish line, now that is going to be interresting.

As if Shadowmourne, Dragonwrath or Fangs of the Father weren't ALL orange fests during their period. Sure you couldn't obtain the items needed to make the daggers in LFR but was normal DS really that hard? Legendary is just a word they give to weapons which won't be obtained by EVERYONE. As of Wrath legendary items became a grindfest that each guild had a certain priority for in rewarding their raiders with the items to make them.

Also worth noting is that MoPs legendary requires obtaining items and completing quests that span the entire expansion. LFR is in NO way even remotely as difficult as Heroic modes are but obtaining the quest items just as much 'luck' or time investment. It is kind of sad to know that the legendary made in LFR will more than likely have the same ilvl as one created in normal or heroic mode but this is the direction Blizz decided to take the game.

It WILL be an orange fest but lets stop pretending that any legendary since wrath hasn't been the same way (with Cata as the prime example).

[kappa]

Fact: Legendary should be ALLWAYS obtainable through LFR/Flex/Normal or HC as Blizzard Legendary-Quests since MC times where only a question of TIME you invest and nothing more....

When Blizzard implement a Quest-Line for a legendary that requires SKILL and not the wasting of at least 24 other peoples time come again...

If you truly believe in your "fact", you are way too far gone lol. Killing Illidan, KJ, Yogg, Lich King, Rag is difficult in itself. Legendaries that can be obtained through TIME is what we have in MoP right now.

Blizzard should just make the end solo quest/scenario decently hard. The reverse QQ will be glorious.

[Dragon Claws]

The solo quest for cloak is joke aswell, so yes, running LFR does grant you the 600ilvl cloak. I dont think LFR should have legendary. heck they shouldnt even have tier. They should just give offset items.

I'm not a fan of having players with better gear turning their nose up people like me who only do LFR.

Players like you disgust me.

Players have been able to participate in the legendary questline since the beginning and they've earned the right as much as anyone else.

[Raintola]

I hope not

Does orange text really matter that much to you or?

[nekobaka]

My favorite part of this thread is all the "raiders" who are crying about someone else being able to get their toy too, absolutely delicious.

OT: Don't like it? Too bad! It's gonna happen

Their toy? Previously on a minority of raiders got to get a legendary. In WotLK and Cata it still went to a minority out of the raid group. How many of those who want it to remain rare even had a legendary?

When Blizzard implement a Quest-Line for a legendary that requires SKILL and not the wasting of at least 24 other peoples time come again...

Well there was QQ posts about the difficulty of the solo parts of the staff and rogue legendary. Not particularly going to say they required skill as I have not participated in them, though they still required a player to do something that they could not just AFK and be handed.

[inboundpaper]

Shit, i'm still on the 5.1 part. I hope you get REAL LEGENDARY from lfr in 5.4, running that much lfr is punishment enough.

[Airwaves]

Yes because it will take a full expansion to get. People fail to relise just how many people who do LFR will get it. Very very few lfr people will get it while its still content. Most lfr people aren't even up to the tot part yet by the time they could get the weapon we will be half way into next expansion.

Pull your fingers out people. If a lfr person put in a WHOLE EXPAINSION of time into getting it they deserve the weapon just as much as any raider. Getting it though normal is just as "lame".



Reading this thread just shows why people look down on raiders. So many pricks making them look bad. Which I can bet most of you would be normal mode heroes that think they are amazing because you can kill normal lei shen.

[lockedout]

This is like saying A-Rod would give a damn about what goes on in tee-ball leagues.

He would if they got paid the same, you forgot that part.

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I'm guessing the "brand spanking new" reward for flex normal and heroic is the legendary, as they said it won't be in LFR. They have to keep legendaries legendary.

If it's not going to be obtainable from LFR then that will be changed because the amount of crying will be endless.

[Floopa]

I'm guessing the "brand spanking new" reward for flex normal and heroic is the legendary, as they said it won't be in LFR. They have to keep legendaries legendary.

Yea, let's keep legendary items legendary. Let's only put them in heroic mode and give them the same chance to drop as TF loot has. That would make an item legendary. I love how the "definition" of "legendary" extends to -whatever- mode you're currently raiding:

Heroic Raider: "legendary is heroic only to be honest, it should require effort to obtain it",
Normal Raider: "nah man, legendary should extend to normal mode too - it's unfair if only .5%~ of people only ever see the item",
Flex Raider: "but wait, what about flex raiding? Why shouldn't flex raiders get it?",
LFR Raider: "yeah, he's right - flex and LFR should get it too, it's unfair if we don't get it - we pay our monthly sub too!"
Everyone but LFR raider: "STFU SCRUB!11"

Seriously. If you want the 'legendary' to be "legendary" it should only drop in heroic mode, at a drop chance equal to TF loot. Otherwise it's going to just drop on all difficulties because too many people would bitch that people better than them are ... well, better than them.

[lockedout]

If you want the 'legendary' to be "legendary" it should only drop in heroic mode, at a drop chance equal to TF loot. Otherwise it's going to just drop on all difficulties because too many people would bitch that people better than them are ... well, better than them.

The problem is it doesn't "drop" you need to make it collecting mats along the way.

[nekobaka]

Yes because it will take a full expansion to get. People fail to relise just how many people who do LFR will get it. Very very few lfr people will get it while its still content. Most lfr people aren't even up to the tot part yet by the time they could get the weapon we will be half way into next expansion.

Pull your fingers out people. If a lfr person put in a WHOLE EXPAINSION of time into getting it they deserve the weapon just as much as any raider. Getting it though normal is just as "lame".

The grind is getting nerfed next patch with drop rates increased and T14 drops being added to T15 LFR, and the total badges to grind lowered. Until we see the rest of the chain we wont know how long in total it will take. With Blizzard nerfing all the grind in this last patch it is possible that they are trying to make it doable before the next expansion. So much for an all expansion grind, its on par with keeping up on the raids so that you dont have to go and farm old content to do the new content while the late comers get to skip stuff and catch up.

[Mormolyce]

Back in Cata my rogue got the first pair of legendary daggers on my realm. By turning up to farm content every week for months. We were like realm 7th at the time, the only reason I was first is that my guild was one of the few 25m guilds at the time.

So I'd just like to say: anyone who has completed the MoP legendary chain up to its current point has already put in significantly more work than I ever did. You've had to grind up those soul crushing fragment drops three goddamn times already... at least I only had to do it once.

Tarecgosa was even easier, people queued up to get that retarded thing one after the other. Every man and his dog had one. And Shadowmourne? LOL, ICC was out for a whole year... you could've gotten that thing on 10 toons if you'd wanted to.

Yes, all you needed was "luck" to kill Illidan or Kil'jaeden consistently when they were current. Those bosses and the ones preceding them were definitely as easy as LFR is now.

In Wrath and Cata all you needed to do was turn up to raid every week and kill bosses until you had enough RNG fragments, and then kill the end boss once. Whereas in TBC you could've got it on your very first kill (or 2nd in Illidan's case I guess), or your hundredth, pure RNG.

And you never had to kill any of those bosses when they were current. Hell in Wrath and Cata it was impossible to get the legendary while the end boss was current because it took months to finish grinding your fragments. Progression was long over by the time I got my daggers, and that was in 25m too...

TLDR: rose tinted glasses causes people to talk a load of shit once again.

[Deleted]

no, its the same chance in every difficulty and only 1 chance per difficulty

You mean it's one chance across ALL difficulties :P

[Airwaves]

If it's not going to be obtainable from LFR then that will be changed because the amount of crying will be endless.

Not to mention people stop playing. Alot of players will keep playing even after they have killed hellscream to get there legendary weapon. As on other last tiers people kill the last boss then cancel there accounts till the next expainsion. The legendary is a way to keep people playing the teir for longer. My account sure as hell would have already been canceled till next teir if it wasn't for the legendary. I only log on for Tuesday to do the titanrune stone drop bosses in lfr then log off for the rest of the week.