PVPing as fury, why so much hate???

[Gamevizier]

Just started playing 3 weeks ago with my hunter friend. and after awhile we both obtained full tyran gear, I arena as a fury warrior and he as MM hunter.

even when im fighting an arms warriors i feel like im a grinding machine because i can dish out insane ammount of DPS in a short time. healers are starting to become much less of a problem to us now because we can dps them down really fast.

but there's something that really irritates me, people hate fury pvp. and i cant understand why, I can kill ppl just fine and we win half of our matches now. despite the fact that we're both inexperienced to arenas. (my friend doesn't use MM CC effectively)

I looked at pvp fury guides and not many of them mention fury being a bad pvp class. thoughts?

[Darkfriend]

Because it doesn't work at higher skill levels, due to the way fury handles damage (enrage reliant, CS phase, etc).

Good teams will just CC you when you pop CDs and than laugh when you have no pressure.

[Deleted]

Because it doesn't work at higher skill levels, due to the way fury handles damage (enrage reliant, CS phase, etc).

Good teams will just CC you when you pop CDs and than laugh when you have no pressure.

Ahahahahahahaha. I love it.
I remember playing BM hunter back in cata when it sucked balls, and beating the shit out of people and then they go "you noob, bm sucks play a real spec". Wondering how much it sucked when I actually beat them.

[inboundpaper]

Fury was clunky as hell for a looooong time, about all you can do is dick around in BG's.

[Valech]

Ahahahahahahaha. I love it.
I remember playing BM hunter back in cata when it sucked balls, and beating the shit out of people and then they go "you noob, bm sucks play a real spec". Wondering how much it sucked when I actually beat them.

So a decent player beats insulting and thus bad players with a random specc? Nothing new.

[Artorius]

Fury depends on criting BT and have a CS debuff to be able to do some damage with RB.
It's just too much RNG at lower ilvls to be a reliable spec...

[Darkfriend]

Ahahahahahahaha. I love it.
I remember playing BM hunter back in cata when it sucked balls, and beating the shit out of people and then they go "you noob, bm sucks play a real spec". Wondering how much it sucked when I actually beat them.

That's pretty much exactly what I said, anything works at low skill levels.

[Johnkie]

Just started playing 3 weeks ago with my hunter friend. and after awhile we both obtained full tyran gear, I arena as a fury warrior and he as MM hunter.

even when im fighting an arms warriors i feel like im a grinding machine because i can dish out insane ammount of DPS in a short time. healers are starting to become much less of a problem to us now because we can dps them down really fast.

but there's something that really irritates me, people hate fury pvp. and i cant understand why, I can kill ppl just fine and we win half of our matches now. despite the fact that we're both inexperienced to arenas. (my friend doesn't use MM CC effectively)

I looked at pvp fury guides and not many of them mention fury being a bad pvp class. thoughts?

I actually played Fury in 2v2 in wotlk, Season 5. Got rank 4 europe war/sham, rank 11 world hohoho.
Only way to beat dk' team back then was to pop cd's intercept - global. xD

I played it in cata aswell, was fun in BG's not that gr8 in arenas.
Havent tried in MoP actually since i dont really like the pvp in this expansion.
Just like any other 3v3, if you got a strong team behind you and you/they double cc.
Then pop cd's when the other team cant rly counter it. im sure it can work at endgame lvl.
Just a matter of playing good

[Darkfriend]

It's not a matter of playing well. It just doesn't work vs good opponents.

How fury performed in WOTL/Cata isn't relevant, nor do I believe your claims add any validity to the stance that fury is good in PVP.

[Not Againnn]

It's not a matter of playing well. It just doesn't work vs good opponents.

How fury performed in WOTL/Cata isn't relevant, nor do I believe your claims add any validity to the stance that fury is good in PVP.

can you stop? like, seriously? your point is made.

[Johnkie]

It's not a matter of playing well. It just doesn't work vs good opponents.

How fury performed in WOTL/Cata isn't relevant, nor do I believe your claims add any validity to the stance that fury is good in PVP.

I dont care what you think its just based on personal experience. As i claimed im not sure in mop because i havent played it.
But if ninja pummel / shout / fear / intercept along with your team mates cc ANYTHING IS POSSIBLe.
Just saying no its not possible is just plain dumb.
Sure maybe not r1 but im sure Glad is possible.

[glowzone]

I dont care what you think its just based on personal experience. As i claimed im not sure in mop because i havent played it.
But if ninja pummel / shout / fear / intercept along with your team mates cc ANYTHING IS POSSIBLe.
Just saying no its not possible is just plain dumb.
Sure maybe not r1 but im sure Glad is possible.

Not anything is possible, you can play sweet, amazing and flawless, but guess what, on good ratings so will your enemy.
By that logic it's possible to be blown up by an arcane mage even with defensive cd's up, but in the end that doesn't matter, good players simply won't let you.

[Johnkie]

Not anything is possible, you can play sweet, amazing and flawless, but guess what, on good ratings so will your enemy.
By that logic it's possible to be blown up by an arcane mage even with defensive cd's up, but in the end that doesn't matter, good players simply won't let you.

Everyone makes mistakes, thats how games is won. Not all battlegroups are hard either buddy.
And what you are saying essentially is that fury is not glad material? even between 3 pro's?.
I beg the differ.

+mop pvp is utter crap, crossing fingers for WoD. (personal opinon, i respect people love mop, wow is a great game still, just not for me :P)

-im off cu.

[Windowflip]

Before DarkFIEND shits on me, I'm simply sharing this for informative purposes only.

Obtained 2400 personal arena rating in early Cataclysm (4.0/4.1) as Fury in 3v3, and 2250+ in 5v5.
Mainly due to the massive amount of +damage that we received whilst Enraged from Mastery, and the Deep Wounds bug.
(Deep Wounds was being applied from non-critical hits; as well as critical.)

As it's been mentioned before, you basically Global pillage the other teams weakest player in under 3 seconds.
Not much skill required, and it was only viable for Season 9 AFAIK. Mastery stacking was tons of fun.

[Deleted]

Fury has always been an unreliable spec in PvP

[Valech]

Before DarkFIEND shits on me, I'm simply sharing this for informative purposes only.

Obtained 2400 personal arena rating in early Cataclysm (4.0/4.1) as Fury in 3v3, and 2250+ in 5v5.
Mainly due to the massive amount of +damage that we received whilst Enraged from Mastery, and the Deep Wounds bug.
(Deep Wounds was being applied from non-critical hits; as well as critical.)

As it's been mentioned before, you basically Global pillage the other teams weakest player in under 3 seconds.
Not much skill required, and it was only viable for Season 9 AFAIK. Mastery stacking was tons of fun.

Thank you for giving us insight into useless information. I am sure it helps us to understand why Fury is widely regarded inferior to Arms in terms of PvP.

[Darkfriend]

Before DarkFIEND shits on me, I'm simply sharing this for informative purposes only.

Obtained 2400 personal arena rating in early Cataclysm (4.0/4.1) as Fury in 3v3, and 2250+ in 5v5.
Mainly due to the massive amount of +damage that we received whilst Enraged from Mastery, and the Deep Wounds bug.
(Deep Wounds was being applied from non-critical hits; as well as critical.)

As it's been mentioned before, you basically Global pillage the other teams weakest player in under 3 seconds.
Not much skill required, and it was only viable for Season 9 AFAIK. Mastery stacking was tons of fun.

Old expac, not relevant to this discussion as being of any importance or relevance.

[Kurghan]

Any player that's capable of noticing your CS phases that can either disarm you or remove your enrage, has beaten you, flat out. And even if they cannot disarm or remove your enrage, which is unlikely in most 3s, can still simply use that information to their advantage. They know when your damage is incoming. Assuming you're going to win only by taking advantage of your opponent's mistakes is counterproductive and naive. Any chance you have to rise above them, they have an equal opportunity to rise above you.

Against an unprepared opponent: Smash their face in.
Against a savvy opponent: Get your face smashed in.

[Pulverize]

I've played warrior and nothing but, since beginning of the game. And I can tell you, that there have been points where fury was very good in PvP. Season 5 and 9 being a few. But at the current moment, Fury is god awful. There is a good reason why no players are above 2200 with it, and that's because its totally in made for PvP. As stated earlier, it relys to much on procs which a clean cc can nullify. A good team will do this instantly, a team 1800 >, will probably just ignore you and die later.

[Artorius]

I've played warrior and nothing but, since beginning of the game. And I can tell you, that there have been points where fury was very good in PvP. Season 5 and 9 being a few. But at the current moment, Fury is god awful. There is a good reason why no players are above 2200 with it, and that's because its totally in made for PvP. As stated earlier, it relys to much on procs which a clean cc can nullify. A good team will do this instantly, a team 1800 >, will probably just ignore you and die later.

Season 9 is the one that fury warriors could use mastery proc trinkets and stack mastery for astronomic enrage damage right?
errr, I remember playing Rogue/Warrior D: