Originally Posted by
Super Dickmann
That's true. One of the main benefits of the Horde is that the cultures in it are incompatible and clash, and that through the Warchief they're all forced in a certain direction that itself creates friction. Even Doomhammer had to struggle and put up with Gul'dan and so forth.
The problems are two-fold. The first is with the Horde's opponent. The Alliance is neither threatening nor interesting and is instead shown to be our disapproving nanny who needs to get us into order. That wasn't the case in WC2, where we were out to kill each other and wasn't the case in Mists up until 5.4, because Varian wanted to win the war and the Alliance was shown to be willing and able to fight in Cataclysm. But everything in BFA is a non-stop reminder of how perfect Anduin is, how happy everyone is with him, how he's universally loved and how the Alliance entirely agrees with him that peace and love is the only option. So do the people we're meant to like Horde-side.
I don't know how it is Alliance-side, but Horde-side that's absolute bullshit. The Alliance has been fighting these people for thirty years now, they've been the victim of genocide more than once, with the last time being under a Horde that was supposedly reformed and they had promised to destroy if it lost its way again. Constantly, the Horde is shown to be the actor here, not just Sylvanas acting on her own. And yet the Alliance wargoal is to remove Sylvanas and then hug it out, and everyone expects and agrees that this will work. It guts the Horde story because there's no sense of threat except in the meta sense that once we lose, we'll become just as much of a boring holier than thou mess as you guys.
The second is the outcome, which is what it's tied into. The Horde hasn't won a war since WC1, so about thirty years both in and out of setting. The end goal of all of these things is always the same. We're supposed to realize that the values of Thrall, who made the orcs destitute and starving in a desert because of an ideology of racial guilt, raised the heroes of WC2 into cult by giving them statues and naming shit after them, yet the narrative paradoxically insists we should dislike them, is the way to go. Every time the Horde is set to learn that it was actually nice and peaceful all along and even in Mists, that was bullshit. It's even more bullshit now. If Blizzard would commit to the faction war status quo with an Alliance that wants the Horde destroyed, explaining why it can be barely held at the seams by an authoritarian ruler while everyone in it was pulling at different directions, that'd be fun. But it just doesn't happen. It's always a cop out about muh honor or muh family, and how forgiveness for the people you have nothing in common with and had been fighting and killing for thirty years makes perfect sense, especially without any sanctions, structural reform or disarmament.