Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Doctor Amadeus]

They have no problems crossing them, they just want to subtle about it.



The big difference is that he says the qiuet part out liud.


And the far right never gave a fuck about that.


All just standard far right bullshit.



They deserve credit and the celebration and that release of stress I have seen from them and everyone else finally stopping this Juggernaut Idiot Trump Train.

You never "gotta hand" to the far right.


93% of them voted Trump this time, this is bullshit.


Just like every Gop member.


No, they only care about themselves. Nothing misguided about them, they are all in it for either the money or the racism.


Not some of them, all of them/

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He was an pilot in Vietnam who performed bombing missions. I though this was common knowdelge in the US?


Why are you all so desperate to defend somebody on the far right? I though the forum hated everything from it.[/QUOTE]

You’re right all perspectives I I’m not appreciating and seeing. From sure worth recognizing.

[Benggaul]

This is a politics subforum. There is no place here for indisputable facts.

I prefer Grizzly Hills. Particularly with the music. :P

OT: What's this about Arizona? I haven't been keeping up with any news about the ongoing counts, is there a real danger it'll change back to Trump or is it just a slim possibility?

[Doctor Amadeus]

Wish I had the same experience you do, but I live in North Carolina and Republican, Conservative and Trump supporters all go hand-in-hand around here. For this entire time you couldn't find a conservative around here were against him, it wasn't till he came out about him calling our soldiers suckers and losers that I even saw ONE person defect from that and tell me he isn't into politics really and just liked to play and that was screwed up. But outside of him, either you supported Trump or you were some stupid, liberal, communist or some crap.

Make no doubts about it, it is the party of Trump, many may have held their noses because of he acted, but they still supported his policies even at the expense of the nation and their kids futures.

Very True all of this. Things I need to appreciate.

[Breccia]

OT: What's this about Arizona?

It doesn't appear to have budged. With the election called by the media, and today being Sunday, don't expect anything today.

[Benggaul]

It doesn't appear to have budged. With the election called by the media, and today being Sunday, don't expect anything today.

I thought as much, but what little I gleaned from skimming past few pages of OT discussion about McCain it seemed like there was somehow some new doubt cast on Biden's hold there. Ah well.

In other related news, Melania is apparently telling Trump to give up "because she doesn't want to deal with fucking Christmas" she didn't say but I'm pretending she did.

[gondrin]

I thought as much, but what little I gleaned from skimming past few pages of OT discussion about McCain it seemed like there was somehow some new doubt cast on Biden's hold there. Ah well.

In other related news, Melania is apparently telling Trump to give up "because she doesn't want to deal with fucking Christmas" she didn't say but I'm pretending she did.

Well, in her defense, I think it will mean more then just him conceding. I think, in her mind, she is telling him their marriage is up too.

[passingthrew]

I thought as much, but what little I gleaned from skimming past few pages of OT discussion about McCain it seemed like there was somehow some new doubt cast on Biden's hold there. Ah well.

In other related news, Melania is apparently telling Trump to give up "because she doesn't want to deal with fucking Christmas" she didn't say but I'm pretending she did.

Not really doubt that it might flip. Just worried that with his base going insane and if it did flip that work them up even more.

[Felya]

I prefer Grizzly Hills. Particularly with the music. :P

OT: What's this about Arizona? I haven't been keeping up with any news about the ongoing counts, is there a real danger it'll change back to Trump or is it just a slim possibility?

Nothing changed... Biden up by 19k at 97%... but... it doesn’t mater... Biden is 20 over...

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I thought as much, but what little I gleaned from skimming past few pages of OT discussion about McCain it seemed like there was somehow some new doubt cast on Biden's hold there. Ah well.

In other related news, Melania is apparently telling Trump to give up "because she doesn't want to deal with fucking Christmas" she didn't say but I'm pretending she did.

Man... I’m jealous... one day I hope that I can be as lucky as Trump. Across massive land and wide open seas, there has to be something similar I can order by mail?

[arandomuser]

so how do dems escape the "defund the police" and socialist mantles
they cant just denounce it, because theyve all already have.
Is there any death row inmates they can go personally watch the execution of for political points ( bill clinton actually did this with a cop killer)?

[Breccia]

Melania is apparently telling Trump to give up

CNN is a reputable source, but it would not surprise me if they were being trolled right now.

[Blur4stuff]

Claiming dems were going to defund the police is like saying they're gonna take everyone's guns. It's complete bullshit meant to frighten people into voting republican.

If someone wants to believe something so batshit crazy then that's certainly their right. You can't reason with people that live and breathe right wing propaganda. What you can do is continue behaving responsibly and in time they'll notice the police haven't magically been defunded. Kind of like the people from 12 years ago that thought Obama was going to take their guns. Not only do they still have those guns, but they've probably added to them.

When 2022 and 2024 roll around there will be no evidence of police being defunded by Biden because it won't exist. If someone thinks their local PD isn't being funded properly they'll have to take that up with their local government.

[Biglog]

We're now in the ~10 week lame duck post election period. I do not believe a "concession" will ever come, but even today in some subtle ways I think we've seen an acceptance of reality for the administration starting to set in. So maybe a better new thread would be on this lame duck period and what happens in it.

Specifically I think we're going to see less discussion on the court fight (which has not gone well and isn't likely to) and more on him "getting even" or doing as much negative as possible against his enemies before his time is up Jan 20th. How far he takes that may depend on what he's really thinking in terms of business opportunities for a post-Presidential life.

Iran in particular is where I would be really concerned of a flare-up between now and then. Either Israel trying to take action before Trump leaves office, and/or Trump doing it as a final jab before he leaves. Trump went out of his way to pick some of the most war hawkish people in the country on Iran in Bannon and Bolton for the top levels of his cabinet, and no one thought the Soleimani killing would happen. Mattis write about how he was so worried Trump would go to war with Iran he prayed every night. And there was a high-level meeting with Israel and the US today. Maybe nothing will happen, but it'll be an area to watch over the next couple months. And that is not even taking into account the arms flights from Iran to Valenzuela that are and have been going on for a few weeks, turning up the heat even more.

[TrollHunter3000]

so how do dems escape the "defund the police" and socialist mantles
they cant just denounce it, because theyve all already have.
Is there any death row inmates they can go personally watch the execution of for political points ( bill clinton actually did this with a cop killer)?

what the fuck are you even talking about? Defunding the police was literally never part of Biden's platform and people voted for him anyway. Changing how the money is spent is what most people support. Not outright defunding them.

[Breccia]

Iran in particular is where I would be really concerned of a flare-up

Iran isn't stupid. They're going to hide under a rock till Jan 20. Yes, Trump could still launch unprovoked, but they're going to make sure the world is on their side for once.

[Benggaul]

what the fuck are you even talking about? Defunding the police was literally never part of Biden's platform and people voted for him anyway. Changing how the money is spent is what most people support. Not outright defunding them.

"Changing how the money is spent" is literally what "defund the police" is supposed to mean. It's just a really shitty slogan.

[Thepersona]

I prefer Grizzly Hills. Particularly with the music. :P

OT: What's this about Arizona? I haven't been keeping up with any news about the ongoing counts, is there a real danger it'll change back to Trump or is it just a slim possibility?

It depends on the next Maricopa County drop... that should be on around this hour. ATM, it's irrelevant for me.

This guy is the one that posts AZ updates, btw:

https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer

[arandomuser]

Iran isn't stupid. They're going to hide under a rock till Jan 20. Yes, Trump could still launch unprovoked, but they're going to make sure the world is on their side for once.

dont think trump would launch any wars, he had so many good opportunities to, he literally covered up an attack by iran on our bases saying "they just had some headaches" could you imagine if obama did that after iran struck our bases with missiles and seriously injured some of our troops, there would be 30 different investigations and 24/7 media coverage calling him a traitor. ANyways i think it has to do with the fact iran and venezuala are big alliances with russia, and in a biden admin they will suddenly claim biden isnt being tough enough on iran and venezuala and russia, basically the neocons and deficit hawks will make a huge comeback january 21st

[Breccia]

dont think trump would launch any wars, he had so many good opportunities to

I agree that, if he wanted to use a war to stay in power, he has missed his chance.

I believe there is still a chance, but lucky for everyone, just because Trump wants a war doesn't mean Trump gets a war.

[kail]

what the fuck are you even talking about? Defunding the police was literally never part of Biden's platform and people voted for him anyway. Changing how the money is spent is what most people support. Not outright defunding them.

Only extremists want the police completely defunded but the slogan itself was never meant to mean that. Reallocation of their large budget to other social services is the main goal behind "defund the police".

[Benggaul]

It depends on the next Maricopa County drop... that should be on around this hour. ATM, it's irrelevant for me.

This guy is the one that posts AZ updates, btw:

https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer

I agree that a win is a win. I just think it would add a little poetic justice to have Biden win the EC by slightly more than Trump's '16 victory. If only because Trump supporters kept insisting that was a "landslide" and then would have to acknowledge--privately, to themselves; never out loud, of course--that if that was a landslide then Biden did slightly better.