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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by ryjkur View Post
    <Onslaught> 1 shotted Patchwerk the wall! Impressive
    Patchwerk was never the wall. Loatheb to a low extent was 4 horseman due to taunt reqs and saph due to frost resist were the walls. But back in vanilla we were nowhere near as maximized.

  2. #22
    APES got 2 wings in 32 minutes, Maexxna and Loatheb. Clear gonna be closer to 80 minutes I think.

    e: Progress on KT now just in 76 minutes after release!

    - - - Updated - - -

    Aaand it's over. <Progress> killed Kel Thuzad. GG
    Last edited by ryjkur; 2020-12-03 at 11:17 PM.

  3. #23
    gg ez
    what was that, 45 minutes?

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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisnumbers View Post
    gg ez
    what was that, 45 minutes?
    86 minutes I think

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    That was quick.

  7. #27
    "Naxx 40 is the hardest raid in the entire game" btw.

    Vanilla was never hard. People just had shit gear and shit computers.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by ryjkur View Post
    86 minutes I think
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    I think we're looking at an 85 minute clear time.
    Look at that guess!

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by jackofwind View Post
    I think we're looking at an 85 minute clear time.
    Aaand we have a winner

  10. #30
    Everyone's had their break. Back to retail guys. We've got RP to afk to.
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    why so mad bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailToTheKing View Post
    "Naxx 40 is the hardest raid in the entire game" btw.

    Vanilla was never hard. People just had shit gear and shit computers.
    Said pretty much no one ever... People that claimed Vanilla was hard are long gone after getting proven wrong numerous times already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailToTheKing View Post
    "Naxx 40 is the hardest raid in the entire game" btw.

    Vanilla was never hard. People just had shit gear and shit computers.
    And didn't know the encounters and didn't have the required consumables and the resist gear as soon as they entered.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    Said pretty much no one ever... People that claimed Vanilla was hard are long gone after getting proven wrong numerous times already.
    But it was hard.
    And now it's not.

  14. #34
    Eveyone arguing about classics difficulty can look at it like a math problem or rubiks cube, a cube could take you months to figure out and be extremely difficult, but once its solved, and you know the algorithm, the new challenge is doing it faster.

    Classic wow has been solved simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brash View Post
    Eveyone arguing about classics difficulty can look at it like a math problem or rubiks cube, a cube could take you months to figure out and be extremely difficult, but once its solved, and you know the algorithm, the new challenge is doing it faster.

    Classic wow has been solved simple as that.
    Yes and no. Vanillas boss mechanics are still piss easy. If MoP classic were to be released, bosses like Lei Shen HC would take some time. Sure not as long as OG kill but it wouldn't be such a walk in the park like classic. There are so many things that can go wrong in more modern raids, not just 1 ability the boss does every 30 sec. Still impressive what progress did. Still baffels me how they can clear AQ40 in around 30-40 min.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    I appreciate the balls of making a "progression" thread.

    After I was absolutely and completely wrong how long it would take ppl to get to lv 60 and clear MC....I am now very cynicak and BWL and AQ 40 proved me right. Naxx is just going to be another faceroll compared to the effort it took in Vanilla.

    It honestly isn't even worth this thread.
    It's already cleared, dude. Two pages in and it's over.
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  17. #37
    There must be some kind of mistake, 4 horsemen was supposed to be a major cockblock

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmjclark View Post
    There must be some kind of mistake, 4 horsemen was supposed to be a major cockblock
    It sort of was. APES wiped on 4H. After that i closed the stream in disgust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailToTheKing View Post
    "Naxx 40 is the hardest raid in the entire game" btw.

    Vanilla was never hard. People just had shit gear and shit computers.
    The best players and guilds in the world, who practised the fights for years on private servers, who practised this specific build for weeks on the PTR, went in and all wiped multiples times except for a single guild.

    If you let people practice the retail fights for a month straight they would oneshot everything with no issues. For me this confirms Naxx is harder than retail.

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    Wasn't KT like a 15-20 minute fight on his own back in Vanilla?

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