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  1. #41
    I would think it's doable with a group. The item queues you for an instance, just group before you use the item.
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    Shadow Priest changed a lot, but it's easier if anything. Pick Misery as a talent so you're not spending half the time putting dots up, and spend your Insanity on Devouring Plague instead of Void Form like you used to.

    Remember to shield yourself with PWS and you can heal as well if you do take damage.

    Fire Mage I can't help with because mine isn't max level yet and I'm a bit crap at it. The lack of a heal hurts when you don't know what you're doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDL49 View Post
    The S. Priest is ilvl 160 and even has a pretty good weapon (171). All of this from WQ's.
    The Mage is ilvl 140 and also has a good weapon (190) that I paid 75k for.

    The 2 characters have very different situations. Something has happened with the S. Priest this expansion and I can't play it right. It kept dying so f'ing easy while leveling that I was ready to pull the plug irrespective of Torghast . But I'm stubborn so I'll finish the campaign if I can but I suspect this character is going to be retired after SL. The Mage leveled fine but after that damned Priest and with 5.3 more alts to level I refuse to put that much time in to it.

    Point of Information: I don't pvp, raid or do Mythic +. Heroic 5's and collecting stuff is my limit.

    As for Torghast, in general I despise it. It is very time consuming and there is no reason for that it to be involved in solo play which the Covenant Campaigns most certainly are. YMMV.
    Dude, just take some minutes to watch a guide and get better at the game. There is no way you are not able to kill the warden. The campaign is the easiest max level content the game has to offer.

  4. #44
    Just for the edification and enjoyment of those of you who have contributed to this thread I thought I would bring it up to date.

    I figured out enough of what the problem was with the Mage. The first clue dropped when I was doing the Warden on yet another character, a Balance Druid, while I procrastinated some more on the Mage. Granted, a Druid is less fragile than a Mage but the important thing was that he was a pet-less caster like my two clothies, and the other two toons I had finished Torghast on weren't.

    Anyway I did it on the Druid using what I'll call a "stick and move" tactic. I can't tell you why I went that way, just that I did. And it worked. It wasn't pretty but so what. That's when I realized that I was trying to use plain old brute force before and that just isn't viable in that situation.

    I don't play one on one stuff. I don't enjoy it. That makes it a blind spot. But succeeding with the Druid made me think about playing style. This led to reconsidering the spell rotation.

    Mirror Image was useless to me in BFA and iirc Legion as well. But I remembered reading somewhere that it was back in SL so I dialed it in. That was the second change.

    Then a couple of days ago came the big one. I got Cryo-Freeze. (I already had Diverted Energy) That gave me a major heal and was the the thing that sparked another attempt.

    I think I got pretty good Anima Powers, especially Triune Ward and some extra Images including one that dropped whenever I blinked and the run went well. Yay !

    I still think the S. Priest as is, is hopeless. I say this based mainly on the crappiness of PWS. I'm lucky to get two damage casts finished before having to renew it. So Discipline is likely in my future. Thanks for enduring this. L8R.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by JDL49 View Post
    I have 2 clothies (F. Mage, S, Priest) who are never, ever, going to be able to kill the Warden, which kills the covenant
    campaign. I want to do it for both and since I don't raid or do keystones joining a guild is out. So outside of a pity f*ck
    what's a fair price for a tank "escort" ?
    wow you are in the wrong game lad, counting out any social element of an mmo....you are the cancer ruining this game honestly. we need more group content not less. When I see people ask more solo content here and in FFXIV makes me laugh, these are our 2 last mmo. go play the myriad of SP game out there please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDL49 View Post
    The S. Priest is ilvl 160 and even has a pretty good weapon (171). All of this from WQ's.
    The Mage is ilvl 140 and also has a good weapon (190) that I paid 75k for.

    The 2 characters have very different situations. Something has happened with the S. Priest this expansion and I can't play it right. It kept dying so f'ing easy while leveling that I was ready to pull the plug irrespective of Torghast . But I'm stubborn so I'll finish the campaign if I can but I suspect this character is going to be retired after SL. The Mage leveled fine but after that damned Priest and with 5.3 more alts to level I refuse to put that much time in to it.

    Point of Information: I don't pvp, raid or do Mythic +. Heroic 5's and collecting stuff is my limit.

    As for Torghast, in general I despise it. It is very time consuming and there is no reason for that it to be involved in solo play which the Covenant Campaigns most certainly are. YMMV.
    I do have to say it's fairly odd that your Priest is so squishy - I've found my SPriest to now be one of my more tankier characters with Devouring Plague, second only to actual tanks
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    Shadowlands has been out for months dude. There are people that have been farming Ven’ari rep since November 25th. Even just doing her weeklies will max out rep in about 6 weeks.
    that's a big fat lie. just doing the weekly for exalted 0/21000 is like 11 week. 2 weekly quest per week, if you get 2 normal quest it is 1700 rep per week, and with the perdi hold one it is 250 more, so 1950.

    Way to bullshit people around.

  8. #48
    Get the power that when you fade it creates an image of you that distracts the enemy and explodes. Also grab the power that reduces the cooldown on fade. You are literally invincible with that combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinner1114 View Post
    Get the power that when you fade it creates an image of you that distracts the enemy and explodes. Also grab the power that reduces the cooldown on fade. You are literally invincible with that combo.
    And if you don't get them...? That's the one of the biggest cons of Torghast, that (below a certain ilvl) runs can be either a cakewalk or impossible, depending on RNGesus' mood that day.
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    WoD was the expansion that was targeted at non raiders.

  10. #50
    The end of it all.

    Well I finally did a run on the S. Priest. Using my experience on the mage (run a lot) I took every anima power that made me faster and ran around like a chicken with his head cut off. I was not graceful. It was not pretty to look at. But it allowed me to live ...... mostly.

    Normally I use Silence for my interrupt not P. Scream* so I didn't think of using it until I changed my mindset towards solo play. So P. Scream was in, in a big way and it helped a lot.

    Finally, I got an anima power that made Mind Blast instacast while Power Infusion was running and there you have it. It took me 2 deaths, one on the Warden, one on an Empowered Malworn Guard, but I got thru it.

    I will let this be a lesson unto me. Thanks for your time.

    *I've had bad experiences with fear spells aggroing stuff I did not want to aggro so I shy off of them.

  11. #51
    If you play on EU I’ll take your character through

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDL49 View Post
    I have 2 clothies (F. Mage, S, Priest) who are never, ever, going to be able to kill the Warden, which kills the covenant
    campaign. I want to do it for both and since I don't raid or do keystones joining a guild is out. So outside of a pity f*ck
    what's a fair price for a tank "escort" ?
    Why do you think a guild is only for keystones or raids?

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    L2p your specs op, if you can’t solo the scripted torg, maybe wow isn’t the game for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedsaint View Post
    L2p your specs op, if you can’t solo the scripted torg, maybe wow isn’t the game for you.
    I've played since 2008 with no problems in the content I've limited myself to. I say limited because I am too old to run Mythic anything and I refuse to put up with the frustrations inherent in raiding.

    Look the problem was that scripted Torghast, (specifically Empowered Malworn Guards and the Warden) is not part of the game I've played for 13 years. It's more or less a 1 on 1 duel and up till now I have NEVER been forced by the game into that. My mindset at first did not consider a duel as a possibility. I assumed more or less normal play and was shocked, shocked ! when that didn't come close to working on the Mage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDL49 View Post
    I've played since 2008 with no problems in the content I've limited myself to. I say limited because I am too old to run Mythic anything and I refuse to put up with the frustrations inherent in raiding.

    Look the problem was that scripted Torghast, (specifically Empowered Malworn Guards and the Warden) is not part of the game I've played for 13 years. It's more or less a 1 on 1 duel and up till now I have NEVER been forced by the game into that. My mindset at first did not consider a duel as a possibility. I assumed more or less normal play and was shocked, shocked ! when that didn't come close to working on the Mage.
    Isnt like every single mob you pull technically speaking a 1v1 duel?

  16. #56
    My Mage would get one shot by abilities beyond around level 4 of Torghast.

    Took my less geared Druid in - and I had a chance to kill/defend against those same things.

    The only way you get your mage through high levels is to find a tank to take with you - it becomes trivial then.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by McFrotton View Post
    that's a big fat lie. just doing the weekly for exalted 0/21000 is like 11 week. 2 weekly quest per week, if you get 2 normal quest it is 1700 rep per week, and with the perdi hold one it is 250 more, so 1950.

    Way to bullshit people around.
    Forgot to add the wrath of the jailer that gives rep and events plus the rares (believe they give up) and the quest items that can drop from various mobs and places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    My Mage would get one shot by abilities beyond around level 4 of Torghast.

    Took my less geared Druid in - and I had a chance to kill/defend against those same things.

    The only way you get your mage through high levels is to find a tank to take with you - it becomes trivial then.
    You are wrong, torghast is extremely easy as a mage. Doing L8 takes me arround 20 mins now, aoeing everything and bursting every boss in less that a minut

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    My Mage would get one shot by abilities beyond around level 4 of Torghast.

    Took my less geared Druid in - and I had a chance to kill/defend against those same things.

    The only way you get your mage through high levels is to find a tank to take with you - it becomes trivial then.
    He's not talking about that.

    One of the covenants has a part of the campaign that takes place in Torghast. In a special scripted part with lower difficulty to be more specific. It's specifically designed to be doable by anyone.
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    i completed twisted corridors on my alt mage when it has around 202 ilvl. complete run took around 2.5 hours ( last boss was 30 minutes or so ) but i literally didn'T touch any mobs beyond level 12 or so. reduced blink cd to 0, when i blink i create a mirror image and mirror images were using more spells than usual, mostly db or gpie. this combo sweeps the place like nothing.

    it is certainly doable with the right combo.
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