Football Season 2021-2022

[Jessicka]

I agree with you on that. It’s why football is fucked.

Sportswashing in general is gross. But I don’t think there’s any competitive sport that’s immune to it, it’s become a very effective means of laundering money and reputations.

I’m somehow glad the Glazers held out to their advances. Imagine that.

[DingDongKing]

Sportswashing in general is gross. But I don’t think there’s any competitive sport that’s immune to it, it’s become a very effective means of laundering money and reputations.

I’m somehow glad the Glazers held out to their advances. Imagine that.

Agreed on both points.

[Marleycat]

Im not a huge fan of the way the USA does sports, the commercialism attached to it or the idea that the national champions somehow automatically become world champions. But one thing I do think they have got right in the NFL is salary caps. It means that the star players are spread around and that all teams over time have a chance to build and compete. You would say that one team has pretty much dominated the NFL recently, but that was a team where their star players took lower wages so they could fill the rest of the team with better quality players. Why wouldn't this work in the PL? It would seem an uncomplicated way to spread the talent around, very few plyers are playing for the club they love, but the club that pays them the most (they may love that club later). Maybe it would need to be a UEFA directive, kind of rambling here but can you see any solution to richest owner wins?

Im kind of ambivalent about the Newcastle thing, maybe even resigned to this is the way of things. But Ill agree that sportswashing is gross and does nothing for the clubs or fans just investors and those in control.

[Kallisto]

Im not a huge fan of the way the USA does sports, the commercialism attached to it or the idea that the national champions somehow automatically become world champions. But one thing I do think they have got right in the NFL is salary caps. It means that the star players are spread around and that all teams over time have a chance to build and compete. You would say that one team has pretty much dominated the NFL recently, but that was a team where their star players took lower wages so they could fill the rest of the team with better quality players. Why wouldn't this work in the PL? It would seem an uncomplicated way to spread the talent around, very few plyers are playing for the club they love, but the club that pays them the most (they may love that club later). Maybe it would need to be a UEFA directive, kind of rambling here but can you see any solution to richest owner wins?

Im kind of ambivalent about the Newcastle thing, maybe even resigned to this is the way of things. But Ill agree that sportswashing is gross and does nothing for the clubs or fans just investors and those in control.

The NFL can get away with caps because it's the only game in town. Any other league that pops us will nearly always die or become a feeder to it. Premier League (Or any other major European league) can't unilaterally do that without hurting itself. If there's a Cap in say spain, the top players will just go to England, Italy, France or Germany.

It will need to be a FIFA wide thing, because even if it was just a UEFA wide thing, then nothing will stop the MLS from Splashing out hundreds of millions or even billions, with China in hot pursuit to do the same (It wouldn't be an overnight thing though. 1000 cuts). But yeah it will need a worldwide effort, not just a nation or a continent.

[Nerph-]

Im not a huge fan of the way the USA does sports, the commercialism attached to it or the idea that the national champions somehow automatically become world champions. But one thing I do think they have got right in the NFL is salary caps. It means that the star players are spread around and that all teams over time have a chance to build and compete. You would say that one team has pretty much dominated the NFL recently, but that was a team where their star players took lower wages so they could fill the rest of the team with better quality players. Why wouldn't this work in the PL? It would seem an uncomplicated way to spread the talent around, very few plyers are playing for the club they love, but the club that pays them the most (they may love that club later). Maybe it would need to be a UEFA directive, kind of rambling here but can you see any solution to richest owner wins?

Im kind of ambivalent about the Newcastle thing, maybe even resigned to this is the way of things. But Ill agree that sportswashing is gross and does nothing for the clubs or fans just investors and those in control.

I think the whole idea of a salary cap is pretty good, but as Kallisto pointed out implementing it would be amazingly difficult I think, unfortunately.

[Fkiolaris]

It might not be a salary cap per se, but Financial Fair Play is meant to keep some sort of ceiling on what teams spend. However, it's an utter farce not least because how different teams can bent it to their will and still be within the rules.

I get the whole idea about the American sports, but they also have a different mentality over there. You can't tell the Man Utd/Liverpool/Barca/Real/Bayern/Juve/insert-whatever-teams-you-like-here that they have to select 2 or 3 of their stars and the rest will go to Millwall or Burnley or whatever, it just won't happen. All the rhetoric from them about the good of the game it's just bollocks, modern football is an aristocracy pure and simple.

[Nerph-]

That is also very true, modern football is an aristocracy indeed. And I also agree that FFP is just there for show, an utter farce. How many times has it been utilized against a team and then that team appeals and it's overturned.

[Marleycat]

Yeah FFP just doesnt work, remember when Man city got a 2 yeah European ban and then appealed and got a fine instead? I mean they either did or didnt break the rules how they can validate the change of decision I don't know but its certainly not going to put anyone off of breaking them again if they can just pay off UEFA. When the owners can basically give huge sponsorship deal to themselves to get round FFP really needs looking at.

Im sure Spurs are the last team thats going to be getting Arab money, maybe Amazon will buy us at some point.

[RobertoCarlos]

Speaking of Spurs Im thinking of starting a "have you seen Dele alli" campaign because im worried for the lad.

Last seen rocking nasty dreds and shagging Peps daughter

[Jessicka]

Well, from that England performance we now know Rice won’t be able to play a lone holding midfielder role at United.

[rogoth]

I don’t know how any Newcastle supporter could celebrate this takeover. Ashley was a wanker, but these new owners are straight up murderers. They make the Glazers look like innocent children.

so are you alleging that the reuben brothers are murderers, are you also alleging that amanda stavely and her husband are also murderers, are you alleging that the entire consortium behind the bid are all just cutthroat murderers based on the ALLEGATIONS against MBS, who is legally not in any way shape or form a part of the club, i think you need to stop smoking whatever it is you're on and get your head out your arse, because being 'morally outraged' and telling people how to feel is just pathetic.

[DingDongKing]

so are you alleging that the reuben brothers are murderers, are you also alleging that amanda stavely and her husband are also murderers, are you alleging that the entire consortium behind the bid are all just cutthroat murderers based on the ALLEGATIONS against MBS, who is legally not in any way shape or form a part of the club, i think you need to stop smoking whatever it is you're on and get your head out your arse, because being 'morally outraged' and telling people how to feel is just pathetic.

The entire consortium behind the bid, are happy to fraternise with a family who are clearly guilty of the murder of innocents and has committed countless other human rights violations. Saying 'oh he is not the legal owner, it's the PIF that is'. Where do you think they get their money from? Santa? The Easter Bunny? It's a state savings account for the Saudi Govt. Hint; the Royal Family IS the Saudi Govt. But sure, keep living in denial.

[rogoth]

The entire consortium behind the bid, are happy to fraternise with a family who are clearly guilty of the murder of innocents and has committed countless other human rights violations. Saying 'oh he is not the legal owner, it's the PIF that is'. Where do you think they get their money from? Santa? The Easter Bunny? It's a state savings account for the Saudi Govt. Hint; the Royal Family IS the Saudi Govt. But sure, keep living in denial.

based on this statement it's clear to me you lack the mental acuity to understand what is at play here, it's also blatantly clear to me that you are so drunk on your own moral outrage juice, you cannot fathom that it has NOTHING TO DO WITH NEWCASLE UNITED FANS what these people do or may have done, it's a 'you' problem that keeps you from seeing this, the day you get that through your head the happier i think many will be as they won't have to read your drivvel.

[Jessicka]

based on this statement it's clear to me you lack the mental acuity to understand what is at play here, it's also blatantly clear to me that you are so drunk on your own moral outrage juice, you cannot fathom that it has NOTHING TO DO WITH NEWCASLE UNITED FANS what these people do or may have done, it's a 'you' problem that keeps you from seeing this, the day you get that through your head the happier i think many will be as they won't have to read your drivvel.

Literally 1 degree of separation between the new board and the chair of the funds that pay for them.

I think it’s pretty clear his ascension isn’t going to stop them bombing starving refugees or assassinating journalists.

[DingDongKing]

based on this statement it's clear to me you lack the mental acuity to understand what is at play here, it's also blatantly clear to me that you are so drunk on your own moral outrage juice, you cannot fathom that it has NOTHING TO DO WITH NEWCASLE UNITED FANS what these people do or may have done, it's a 'you' problem that keeps you from seeing this, the day you get that through your head the happier i think many will be as they won't have to read your drivvel.

Nope. It’s very much a you problem. Because if you fans are okay with having such a regime as custodians of the club, it’s a you problem. You would just rather not accept the issue, because the success of the club trumps everything.

[rogoth]

Literally 1 degree of separation between the new board and the chair of the funds that pay for them.

I think it’s pretty clear his ascension isn’t going to stop them bombing starving refugees or assassinating journalists.

i never said it would, i did however say it's got fuck all to do with the fans because there's absolutely NOTHING that any of them can do about it, not a single thing, and this utterly clueless muppet drunk on his own juice is hilarious to think otherwise, it's abundantly clear that they lack the grey matter computation level needed to understand this fact yet they still harp on about the moral outrage that people 'should' be feeling regarding this issue, and is deluded enough to think that anybody who disagrees with their viewpoint is a murderer by association, it's farcical.

[Jessicka]

i never said it would, i did however say it's got fuck all to do with the fans because there's absolutely NOTHING that any of them can do about it, not a single thing, and this utterly clueless muppet drunk on his own juice is hilarious to think otherwise, it's abundantly clear that they lack the grey matter computation level needed to understand this fact yet they still harp on about the moral outrage that people 'should' be feeling regarding this issue, and is deluded enough to think that anybody who disagrees with their viewpoint is a murderer by association, it's farcical.

I’m not suggesting you’re a murderer by association, but whether or not you continue to support the club, I’d expect a little more contrition over it as opposed to glee and denial.

[DingDongKing]

i never said it would, i did however say it's got fuck all to do with the fans because there's absolutely NOTHING that any of them can do about it, not a single thing, and this utterly clueless muppet drunk on his own juice is hilarious to think otherwise, it's abundantly clear that they lack the grey matter computation level needed to understand this fact yet they still harp on about the moral outrage that people 'should' be feeling regarding this issue, and is deluded enough to think that anybody who disagrees with their viewpoint is a murderer by association, it's farcical.

1. Fans could’ve protested the takeover of the club by such a vile regime.
2. Fans could’ve petitioned the Premier League to not ratify the takeover by such a vile regime.
3. Fans could’ve not celebrated the takeover of their club by such a vile regime.
4. Fans could’ve not denied the existence of crimes committed by such a vile regime.

But nope, you didn’t. Because you love the $$$.

[rogoth]

1. Fans could’ve protested the takeover of the club by such a vile regime.
2. Fans could’ve petitioned the Premier League to not ratify the takeover by such a vile regime.
3. Fans could’ve not celebrated the takeover of their club by such a vile regime.
4. Fans could’ve not denied the existence of crimes committed by such a vile regime.

But nope, you didn’t. Because you love the $$$.

lemme go get my contact who works for the nobel prize committee on the phone, you have single handedly given the recipe to world peace, need to make sure this gets written down asap so it's not lost. /s

once again you're still preaching this 'woe is me' bullshit, nothing that you have said is in ANY WAY a fault of the fanbase, even if fans did EVERYTHING you suggest, there's literally NOTHING that would have changed, furthermore it's clear to me that you lack the mental capacity to understand this matter and as such are just using the same worn out moral outrage stance that's such a non arguement it's laughable, but you keep going on about how people 'should' feel, i'm pretty sure it'll work great for you in the real world.

[Northern Goblin]

1. Fans could’ve protested the takeover of the club by such a vile regime.
2. Fans could’ve petitioned the Premier League to not ratify the takeover by such a vile regime.
3. Fans could’ve not celebrated the takeover of their club by such a vile regime.
4. Fans could’ve not denied the existence of crimes committed by such a vile regime.

But nope, you didn’t. Because you love the $$$.

Frankly, they're probably too busy being relieved to be rid of Mike Ashley.

Let's not pretend the previous owner was anything less than an obnoxious prick who treats his employees like slaves.


Holding Newcastle fans responsible here in any degree is laughable. Ashley was one of the most loathed owners across the entire league since Ken Bates.