1. #20961
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    And so does West. Just stop supporting the war and it'll end soon enough.
    No

    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Both sides have responsibility; Russia is acting on it, West feeds the flames.
    No, this is purely Russia's doing.

  2. #20962
    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Is this where I point out the irony of Russia bitching about international agreements being breached?

    You do not have free access to Lithuanian soil, suck it up and ship it in.

    And we all know you’re incapable of upholding a blockade of Lithuania.
    Baltic sea fleet is right there, with no role in Ukrainian conflict.

  3. #20963
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    And so does West. Just stop supporting the war and it'll end soon enough.

    Both sides have responsibility; Russia is acting on it, West feeds the flames.
    The West can remove Russia from Ukraine? I do believe thats what we’re trying to do. Letting Russians rape their way through Ukraine is unacceptable.

  4. #20964
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    And so does West. Just stop supporting the war and it'll end soon enough.

    Both sides have responsibility; Russia is acting on it, West feeds the flames.
    The West is not going to sit back and let Russia violate Ukraine's sovereignty. Why do you think Russia is entitled to rape, murder and steal from the Ukrainians?

    The West didn't care about Russia until it started committing war crimes on an industrial scale.

    At what point do you start to question the nonsense you repeat here?

  5. #20965
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Baltic sea fleet is right there, with no role in Ukrainian conflict.
    And they’ll join that Moscow ship, if they try to blockade a NATO country.

  6. #20966
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Baltic sea fleet is right there, with no role in Ukrainian conflict.
    Is Russia gonna sink more of their vessels to own the west?

  7. #20967
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Rail transport to Kaliningrad is subject to international agreement too
    Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    which is broken by Lithuanian actions.
    No.

    I find it symptomatic that you fail to cite the agreement, https://www.consilium.europa.eu/ueDo.../rus/73173.pdf

    It's primarily about allowing free flow of persons, not goods, and does not infringe upon the sovereign right of Lithuania to exercise the necessary controls and to refuse entry into its territory.

    And to quote Lithuanian PM
    "I don't know if there's any international treaty that it [Russia] hasn't violated," she said.

  8. #20968
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    No, this is purely Russia's doing.
    Keep being in denial then, my viewpoint is clear and I don't have to convince you.

  9. #20969
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Keep being in denial then, my viewpoint is clear and I don't have to convince you.
    Who invaded a sovereign country? Hint, you’re living in it

  10. #20970
    It's clear that Putin wishes he never started this shit.

  11. #20971
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Is Russia gonna sink more of their vessels to own the west?
    Add that the baltic fleet is the weakest of Russias fleets, and is incapable of any offensive actions.

  12. #20972
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Keep being in denial then, my viewpoint is clear and I don't have to convince you.
    Who forced Russia to invade Ukraine, again?

  13. #20973
    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Who invaded a sovereign country? Hint, you’re living in it
    Who supplies arms and munitions? Hint: You're part of that alliance.

  14. #20974
    Shalcker is just throwing a tantrum, because he’s realising that Russias threats are taken as nothing more but threats. Trying to blockade Lithuania, would only add to the pathetic humiliation Russia is going through

  15. #20975
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Who forced Russia to invade Ukraine, again?
    Responsibility to protect, duh.

    Remember you talked about responsibility?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Shalcker is just throwing a tantrum, because he’s realising that Russias threats are taken as nothing more but threats. Trying to blockade Lithuania, would only add to the pathetic humiliation Russia is going through
    We'll see how winter will shape up.

    So far Russia keeps racking up economic points, and EU keeps getting ever-increasing inflation and trade deficit numbers.

  16. #20976
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Who supplies arms and munitions? Hint: You're part of that alliance.
    Well obviously, you invaded a sovereign country.

    Riddle me this, if Russia left Ukraine and we kept supplying Ukranians with weapons, there still wouldnt be a war. If we stopped supplying Ukraine and Russia still tried to advance, the war would persist.

    Now who’s in power to end this?

  17. #20977
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Keep being in denial then, my viewpoint is clear and I don't have to convince you.
    Do you think someone who is fed on a diet of state propaganda, who spends hour after hour defending lie after lie on an obscure gaming forum, has the clearest understandings of the situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Who supplies arms and munitions? Hint: You're part of that alliance.
    This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

  18. #20978
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Responsibility to protect, duh.

    Remember you talked about responsibility?

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    We'll see how winter will shape up.

    So far Russia keeps racking up economic points, and EU keeps getting ever-increasing inflation and trade deficit numbers.
    It’s still a cheap price to see Russia go down mate, whatever deficits it’ll cause, will still look like nothing compared to 2008, we’ll recover, you wont lol.

    But thanks for pushing the green agenda.

    Now back to your hilarious dream of blocking Lithuania lol

  19. #20979
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    We'll see how winter will shape up.

    So far Russia keeps racking up economic points, and EU keeps getting ever-increasing inflation and trade deficit numbers.
    in which case you will absolutely be locked into a quagmire that everyone told you, you would get into. all while murdering civilians and ruining the entire country in the process. really taking a note from the imperialist's in the west with that slippery definition for what victory looks like. I bet GWB would be proud.
    Last edited by uuuhname; 2022-06-21 at 09:01 PM.

  20. #20980
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Responsibility to protect, duh.
    To protect Russia from what?

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