1st Mexican truck to enter US interior within days

[holybernard]

Yay my brothers made it into the country!!!!!!

[MuricaIsDead]

Thats how capitalism works... isnt it?

unfortunately our system ceased being capitalism long ago.

it's now a clusterfuck of runaway corporatism with extreme neo-liberal fascism. thank you bush 2 and bush 3 (obama).

[Noomz]

Thats how capitalism works... isnt it?

At its finest.
They want to make more money, so this is what they wanna do. And people blame the mexicans when the real blame is in the system itself that doesn't give two shits as long as it makes more money.

[Foosha]

Capitalism...CAPITALISM?!?! Don't blame capitalism. Blame the democratically sided unions here (which is as far away as you can get from capitalism). This is the same fiasco like the Boeing plant. The union idiots have only to blame themselves...however I do side with the safety issue.

To the union members. Get rid of it, and keep your job, or stay in the union and get replaced. YOUR MOVE. So you take a little in paycuts, atleast you won't have to give money to the union.

[MLX]

You do realise that immigrants do the jobs that most "Natives" are too lazy to do / consider it beneath them. They are generally the ones who collect the rubbish, keep the sewers working and so on; immigrants are, as they have always been, vital to a nation, every nation. As callous as it may sound, America doesn't seem to get this.



Also. Utter bollocks, sheer pillockry from your part. Europe has been taking in immigrants from all over the world a lot longer than America has. I'll use Scotland as an example, as I know a lot about our history:

The most obvious of the immigrants; the Irish, 80% of the Irish working class emigrated to Scotland during the Potato Famine back in the 19th century; we whined and moaned about them at first, how they were lower wages and so; but see, in the end, they literally fueled the nation, increasing our coal output ten-fold, they built most our railway infrastructure incredibly efficiently, and they worked a lot more effectively than many Scottish workers. They then later on were slightly more accepted in Scottish society when they joined the trade unions, and helped drive up wages for the workers in general.

We then more onto the Lithuanians, moving by the truck-load to Scotland, very poor, accused of stealing jobs from the native Scots and so on, driving down wages, the usual accusations. Well, lets take a lookee: Aided in the construction and operation of several more coal mines in the North-East of Scotland, further increasing the coal output into the country, to fuel our new steam-powered nation. They also were fairly quickly accepted into Scottish society, getting on well with the local populace, despite cultural differences, also helping out with the trade unions. They also fought on the side of Britain during the First World War, doing their part to bring about a victory.

Next we have the Italians: Very, very, very poor. Completely impoverished, escaping from under the rule of the Monarch of southern Italy and Sicily. They often had absolutely no money what so ever, and were considered a strain on the Scottish economy. However; they introduced the Cafe culture to Scotland, and brought a variety of different food types to Scotland. It was the Italians who introduced the now famous Fish & Chips to Britain, which is considered the staple meal of your average Glaswegian.

The Jewish populace were also severely looked down upon, but they aided the Scottish economy beyond belief, often looking after their own, rather than falling onto governments' unemployment benefits to sustain them. They were the founders of many businesses throughout Glasgow, with some super-market brands originating from Jewish owners.

We also had the Indians migrating over; which introduced a further enrichment into the Scottish culture, rather than harming it, as many would have believed. They also further varied the food culture in Scotland, with the introduction of curries and so on. As well as being very hard works, and a relatively peaceful people.

The Chinese also moved in small amounts to Scotland, providing the same sort of benefits as mentioned above, culture enrichment and a good work ethic.

My point is; if America stopped acting like the immigrants will ruin their culture and cast their tradition into the sea, they might actually be doing themselves a favour. Sure, the Mexican immigrants will be working for a lower fee when they first come over, but once they're properly, legally integrated into society, they will drive wages up; and the companies won't have cheap, illegal labour to fall back upon.

Unchecked illegal immigration Will destroy america. Checked immigration will enrich it.

[Deleted]

America already takes in more immigrants than any other country. They can't say shit.

CIA rank USA at 23rd

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2112rank.html

[NeutralGuy]

CIA rank USA at 23rd

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2112rank.html

How can they possibly tally the number of illegals? I call Illogical Fallacies here.

TY wells

[balatro]

CIA rank USA at 23rd

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2112rank.html

You and your silly facts.

Though really, someone will just say "It's estimates, it doesn't count" or attempt to change the meaning of the statement.

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How can they possibly tally the number of illegals? I call Illogical Fallacies here.

TY wells

Because they still use resources, go to schools, hospitals, taxes, etc.

illegal=/=invisible

[Catta]

You and your silly facts.

Though really, someone will just say "It's estimates, it doesn't count" or attempt to change the meaning of the statement.

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Because they still use resources, go to schools, hospitals, taxes, etc.

illegal=/=invisible

also, its the CIA... they have spies everywhere maaaaan

[namelessone]

Protectionism doesn't help economy.
Protectionism doesn't help economy.
Protectionism doesn't help economy.
Protectionism doesn't help economy.

[Wells]

Capitalism...CAPITALISM?!?! Don't blame capitalism. Blame the democratically sided unions here (which is as far away as you can get from capitalism).

Unions are perfectly in line with capitalism.

[Sunseeker]

What's silly is to see a statement like "Trucking Company CEOs report hiring problems" and respond with "well I haven't seen any help wanted signs so they must either be fine or are doing it wrong"

Its just bad reasoning.

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http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/10/13/...s-go-unfilled/

There are various statements being made and various statements being made about them that simply aren't connecting.

What is the problem: Finding already qualified people, sure, schooling for ANY kind of education is incredibly expensive.

What isn't the problem: Training new people to become qualified and retaining them. The article you linked showed Con-Way as having trained 440 Drivers in 18 months, with a 98% retention rate(approx: 431 drivers).

So yes, I agree that there's probably a lack of already qualified drivers, just as there is a lack of qualified engineers and qualified mathematicians given the extreme cost of education in this country. $4000 for even a truck-driver education is NOT cheap, especially for someone who has no job or is holding down a minimum-wage burger-flipper job and likely having trouble making his monthly bills. A $10,000 a year, 4-year education to become a chemist or engineer, not to mention getting experience in the field, is likewise incredibly expensive.

But as Con-way demonstrates, once they train people, it's easy to keep them(not surprising in the current labor market). But expecting to just FIND people with the qualifications, I think the companies are underestimating how expensive an education in even the most basic field is.

[Catta]

Protectionism doesn't help economy.
Protectionism doesn't help economy.
Protectionism doesn't help economy.
Protectionism doesn't help economy.

are you sure?

[Wells]

are you sure?

On that note

As Paul Craig Roberts notes: "[Foreign discrimination of US products] is reinforced by the US tax system, which imposes no appreciable tax burden on foreign goods and services sold in the US but imposes a heavy tax burden on US producers of goods and services regardless of whether they are sold within the US or exported to other countries.

[Sunseeker]

As an addendum, Con-Way also demonstrates the perfect solution. Instead of whining to the press about how "we can't find qualified people", Con-Way went out and MADE people qualified. It's the perfect solution. If a company needs mathematicians, chemists, plumbers, truckers, then you start up programs to get people educated, a 98% retention rate is amazing and exactly the kind of company loyalty you'll see when you train the people you need. If companies continue to demand people indebt themselves by tens of thousands of dollars with no guarantee of a job, then of course they're going to have hiring issues. High risk+small chance of reward is not what people are going to be doing in the current economy. But as Con-Way demonstrates, for a company to offer education and guarantee jobs this is a low risk and high reward situation for the company.

It's honestly the perfect solution. Don't just demand employees and then complain when they're not trained. Offer them training and then get them employed. You'll get trained, loyal employes, sure a little more cost on the company's end, but as ConWay demonstrates, it's worth it.

[Wells]

Instead of whining to the press about how "we can't find qualified people"

Whining? The article that started this whole thing was an interview on labor shortage in their industry. To categorize it as whining is kinda silly.

[Sunseeker]

Whining? The article that started this whole thing was an interview on labor shortage in their industry. To categorize it as whining is kinda silly.

I'm referring to your article, not the initial one. Though I doubt there's much difference.

The first company was complaining they couldn't find anyone.

The second company was complaining but had developed a clearly functional solution.

Complaining while sitting on your hands is whining.