Should the Grand Alliance retake Stromgarde during the MoP world event?

[Frontenac]

I know, that's why I complain. The figure of the High King makes no sense, less if we consider Stormwind is the only Alliance nation with a king right now.



Terenas II was the most powerful of the Alliance leaders, but not THE leader.

No, he was the leader. It was called the Alliance of Lordaeron, afterall.

"The Alliance of Lordaeron was led by King Terenas Menethil II, who accepted ambassadors or the monarchs from all member nations and races to his capital. Rarely did the monarchs of the major realms come together." - Wowpedia

[Combatbutler]

Both. He was powerful, and had more influence than the others, but he still had to convince the minor nations.

Lordaeron was a powerful Kingdom, yet it was not as powerful as Quel'thalas or Gilneas. The Alliance rallied mainly around Lothar not Terenas II.

It's the perfect time. Stromgarde has been reclaimed since ages, and now, the Horde has something that compensates, so they don't get nothing while Alliance gets Stromgarde.

Yeah Stromgarde should be rebuilt, since the Alliance needs a foothold on the northern part of the eastern kingdoms, otherwise the forsaken would pretty much dominate it.

[Morgomir]

you guys do realize that Stromgarde only has 1200 people left....
and i personally could wipe out what remains of its military

[Deleted]

Sounds like an awesome idea. Maybe I should level an Ally toon just to be able to participate?

[Lon-ami]

No, he was the leader. It was called the Alliance of Lordaeron, afterall.

"The Alliance of Lordaeron was led by King Terenas Menethil II, who accepted ambassadors or the monarchs from all member nations and races to his capital. Rarely did the monarchs of the major realms come together." - Wowpedia

Lordaeron, aside from a kingdom's name, is the name of the subcontinent. It's only logic to call the Alliance like that.

Also, lead and being the leader are different things. He lead because he was the most powerful, but he wasn't the leader, and couldn't do what he wished without approbation.

[Deleted]

So, since Humans are the most numerous race and the one that federated this Alliance, it's logical for Varian to be its leader.

The Night Elves are the oldest race, they will be damned if they will be fully taking commands concerning their territory from a younger race which has at least caused half of the current problems.

This is what I hope.

1. Alliance retakes all of Lordaeron and kills Sylvanas.
2. Horde attacks Teldrassil and the Night Elves have to abandon it to prevent it from being burnt down.

3. Night Elves relocate to Lordaeron to work full-time on deplagueing.
4. Forsaken move into the ruins of Theramore.

5. The exodar boat now goes direct to Stormwind.
6. The Orb of Translocation goes to Orgrimmar.

By which right should the Night Elves leave their lands to the Horde? It is ridiculous they are located in some shitty isolated corner anyway. If the Horde attacks Teldrassil, why would they not attack Azuremyst.

[Deleted]

Systematically assassinating the remaining Val'kyr would do far more for the Alliance than retaking Stromgarde.

In fact, that's all they really have to do. The Forsaken is in a terrible demographic position. Take out their one stopgap in that department and the race will just wither in the face of attrition.

[Frontenac]

Lordaeron, aside from a kingdom's name, is the name of the subcontinent. It's only logic to call the Alliance like that.

Also, lead and being the leader are different things. He lead because he was the most powerful, but he wasn't the leader, and couldn't do what he wished without approbation.

The President of the United States cannot do all he wants without the approbation of the Congress either. He is still the leader. Same with Ban Ki Moon. He's the leader of the United Nations, but cannot do all he wants with it. Queen Elizabeth II is the leader of the Commonwealth, and again, the Commonwealth can't act without the approval of its constituents. Same with CEOs. It can go on and on. It all depends on the amount of power you give to the leader.

Terenas was the leader and "president" of the Alliance. You see that in the begining of WCIII when he presides a meeting of allied ambassadors.

[UnknownSoldier]

I would love this idea. For some reason Stromgarde has always been my favorite Alliance city, even though it's been in ruins throughout all of WoW, and the questing area is the worst in the game outside of Silithus.

Has anyone posted this idea on the WoW forums?

[Frontenac]

The Night Elves are the oldest race, they will be damned if they will be fully taking commands concerning their territory from a younger race which has at least caused half of the current problems.

Who said Varian will command the Night Elves directly?

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

The Night Elves are the oldest race, they will be damned if they will be fully taking commands concerning their territory from a younger race which has at least caused half of the current problems.




By which right should the Night Elves leave their lands to the Horde? It is ridiculous they are located in some shitty isolated corner anyway. If the Horde attacks Teldrassil, why would they not attack Azuremyst.

There is no reason for them not to attack Azuremyst. But Azuremyst and Silvermoon will never be updated past BC it seems. So blizz will lorelol their way to avoid touching Azuremyst.

[Lon-ami]

I would love this idea. For some reason Stromgarde has always been my favorite Alliance city, even though it's been in ruins throughout all of WoW, and the questing area is the worst in the game outside of Silithus.

Has anyone posted this idea on the WoW forums?

If you have an US account, I would be pleased if you (or anyone else) posted it on there. Feel free to copy+paste the entire first post, and don't forget to include a link here for the poll. Give me the wow forums link, too, so I can put it at the first post .

[Deleted]

Yes, make it part of the Stormwind empire so the need for a king is inert.

Ive always wanted Stormgarde and Stratholme

[Kybo]

Awesome idea i have to admit, almost everyone would welcome it big time.

[Deleted]

The Night Elves are the oldest race, they will be damned if they will be fully taking commands concerning their territory from a younger race which has at least caused half of the current problems.

The trolls are way older, besides the Night elves caused the biggest problems, human bad deeds can't even compare.

[Combatbutler]

The trolls are way older, besides the Night elves caused the biggest problems, human bad deeds can't even compare.

Well the elves caused shit in the past and now it is time for the younger races to make similar mistakes wrecking the planet. Humans and Orcs are on the best way to cause troubles, which could be compared to the sundering.

[h4rr0d]

Well the elves caused shit in the past and now it is time for the younger races to make similar mistakes wrecking the planet. Humans and Orcs are on the best way to cause troubles, which could be compared to the sundering.

You mean like the one where the human leader gets corrupted by scourge and almost wipes all life on Azeroth? Yeah, I agree that horde has some catching up to do in that regards.

[Combatbutler]

You mean like the one where the human leader gets corrupted by scourge and almost wipes all life on Azeroth? Yeah, I agree that horde has some catching up to do in that regards.

The Lich king was originally only Ner'zhul until Arthas hosted his spirit, so they are pretty even.

[Deleted]

horrible idea, the alliance is supose to be defensive not offensive

[Deleted]

You mean like the one where the human leader gets corrupted by scourge and almost wipes all life on Azeroth? Yeah, I agree that horde has some catching up to do in that regards.

He wasn't leader of anything before he joined the Scourge.