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    SWTOR Troll threads both here and SWTOR forums

    Im sure this probably qualifies as name and shame (im hoping this counts as a community service lol) but there has been a poster on these forums and the SWTOR forums that has been making sensationalist claims about how SWTOR is failing.

    For the love of god, check the guys post history before running here and claiming his thread as fact.

    When the f*** will people learn to STOP reading Xugos/Vorps/TheSandweech/whatever threads? Hes a liar. He keeps comparing SWTOR to WoW. He has lied in multiple threads on multiple forums about how SWTOR is dying or dead or whatever or that he has massive "End Game experience" when all he did was lie about every damn thing under the sun.

    Seriously...

    Here you go

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...9#post14290199

    Should explain everything.

    If not, he made a thread on the SWTOR forums on "How to resuscitate SWTOR" and once again listed a ton of stuff that WoW has that SWTOR doesnt and that are apparently a must if the game is to be saved. All the shit he posts is bullshit, should be treated as bullshit, and removed like bullshit. The guy hates the game and wants to it to fail or drive away as many people as possible so his precious WoW will continue on. The guy also has multiple accounts on this website and wouldnt honestly surprise me if he had multiple on the SWTOR forums. He uses these extra accounts to support himself.

    Heres his SWTOR sig
    "EVERYONE, BACK THE !@$# UP! MY OPINION IS FACT!"

    Oh and here is one of his troll treads on the SWTOR forums. The guy is a troll and full of shit. Disregard everything the fool says.

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=122364

    and another troll thread
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=137790

    and another

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=137790
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=174556
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=179590
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=171487
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=163772
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=160448
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=160382
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=147833
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=147755
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=146929
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=147891
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=147596
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=146041
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=143475
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=142165
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=137790
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=127888
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=132851
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=122364
    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=132448

    Thats just the first PAGE of his thread creation history. All are about how Bioware has failed in some way shape or form. Also those are all from between Jan 4th to today.





    I know the game isnt perfect by a long shot. Lots of issues with raiding/pvp/classes and the game in general. I understand this and hope that things get worked out relatively quick. However, if you are that worried about the game try to look shit up first before you go and read one of Xugos/Vorps/TheSandweech or whatever his damn name is this week and assume that his pile of shit is fact.
    Last edited by babalou1; 2012-01-15 at 09:53 AM.

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    So you are complaining about another guy on another forum?

    Ok nice

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    And on this one. He posts here. People from MMO-C read his posts and assume the game is "dying" and then they make posts on this forum. People need to stop taking his bullshit threads on ANY forum as truth. The guy is out to smear SWTOR because it isnt WoW.

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    I guess his friends stopped playing the same MMO as him and he's a tad upset, poor little guy .

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    fix your mmoc link

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    How are those troll posts at all? They are 100% on topic about the game. It's funny how the word troll has become a word for anything you do not agree with. Honestly, with your description of troll, you are in fact a troll for posting this.

    By the way, a lot of his threads are 100% spot on correct about the game.

    Edit: I think his quote sums up exactly what you and others are doing.

    You see, you're attacking the credibility of the person making the argument instead of the argument itself. That detriments your own credibility when it comes to making a strong rebuttal, but it also shows that the only argument you have is one that employs 'ad-hominem logic,' which is a fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertarian View Post
    How are those troll posts at all? They are 100% on topic about the game. It's funny how the word troll has become a word for anything you do not agree with. Honestly, with your description of troll, you are in fact a troll for posting this.

    By the way, a lot of his threads are 100% spot on correct about the game.
    By sheer number and repetition. We get the point, he thinks the game has flaws. Even if you agree with him at some point you gotta let sleeping dogs lay down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrahasis View Post
    By sheer number and repetition. We get the point, he thinks the game has flaws. Even if you agree with him at some point you gotta let sleeping dogs lay down.
    He paid for the game. You paid for the game. Both of you are allowed to post your opinions, views and stances on the subject, but he is called a troll because it's negative and you do not agree? The reason these types of people are needed, are so future developers will see that there really are a large majority of people who are sick and tired of doing the same thing since 2005. I am one of them, and a lot of his posts are exactly how I feel. So I am glad others are posting about this subject, and hopefully future games will start to move away from this style of gameplay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertarian View Post
    He paid for the game. You paid for the game. Both of you are allowed to post your opinions, views and stances on the subject. The reason these types of people are needed, are so future developers will see that there really are a large majority of people who are sick and tired of doing the same thing since 2005.
    I agree. I'm glad he made his point the first time. And the second time. And the 3rd time. But the 7,8, and 9th time is trolling. Also let me guess by future games you mean... GW2 the prophesied messiah? The one that will lift all us schlubs from SWTOR RIFT and WOW. Have fun with that. Two more days and early access people start either having to pay for subs or leave. I can't wait to have clean forums again. Or maybe I'm hoping for to much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrahasis View Post
    I agree. I'm glad he made his point the first time. And the second time. And the 3rd time. But the 7,8, and 9th time is trolling.
    This. He's a troll because he repeatedly repeats himself in new threads just to get more attention to his opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrahasis View Post
    I agree. I'm glad he made his point the first time. And the second time. And the 3rd time. But the 7,8, and 9th time is trolling.
    I do not see your point. I clicked on a few of the links and a lot of his posts are about different subjects:

    132851 - Dungeon finder
    137790 - Replay value
    174556 - Advanced classes
    179590 - Maintenance threads
    147833 - Budget vs amount of content
    147596 - Who else is burnt out
    143475 - "professional" reviews vs metacritic

    I could keep going, but you should get the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertarian View Post
    I do not see your point. I clicked on a few of the links and a lot of his posts are about different subjects:

    132851 - Dungeon finder
    137790 - Replay value
    174556 - Advanced classes
    179590 - Maintenance threads
    147833 - Budget vs amount of content
    147596 - Who else is burnt out

    I could keep going, but you should get the point.
    Which he could neatly, efficiently and concisely do in one or two threads. Instead he'd rather draw attention to himself by repeatedly posting his negativity about the game. If he did it once or twice, then I would genuinely believe he was concerned about helping the game. Instead he just seems bored and needs to get some attention and troll, dude he literally has written 22 threads on the official forums. Hey its his time to waste. two more days and we'll be free and clear of his kind. Hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrahasis View Post
    Which he could neatly, efficiently and concisely do in one or two threads. Instead he'd rather draw attention to himself by repeatedly posting his negativity about the game. If he did it once or twice, then I would genuinely believe he was concerned about helping the game. Instead he just seems bored and needs to get some attention and troll. hey its his time to waste. two more days and we'll be free and clear of his kind. Hopefully.
    That is not trolling. Just because he posts multiple threads, does not mean the argument is invalid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertarian View Post
    That is not trolling. Just because he posts multiple threads, does not mean the argument is invalid.
    Lol multiple is one thing. 22 is another. I could have all the valid criticism in the universe, if I flood the forums with it I still fully expect the mods to ban my ass because its clutters to much shit up and is entirely unnecessary.

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    I noticed him too OP. Then I put him on ignore and realised how much less QQ there is on the forums. I'm not even joking.

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    You know, a person has to decide to get trolled, you obviously are very good at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrahasis View Post
    Which he could neatly, efficiently and concisely do in one or two threads. Instead he'd rather draw attention to himself by repeatedly posting his negativity about the game. If he did it once or twice, then I would genuinely believe he was concerned about helping the game. Instead he just seems bored and needs to get some attention and troll, dude he literally has written 22 threads on the official forums. Hey its his time to waste. two more days and we'll be free and clear of his kind. Hopefully.
    And in almost every thread where someone has something negative to say I've seen you express all of your positive views on the game. I've also seen you chime in on threads where people praise the game to express these same views. Couldn't you just efficiently and concisely do that in one or two threads as well? For someone who said in another thread:

    Theirs a huge difference. Gamers do not care about coming on forums like these and defending their games against other games. Gamers just care about having fun. Fan bases on the other do care about that.
    I find you to be one of the more frequent posters/apologists on the forum, so much so that I have to wonder when you even have time to play the game, or if you are actually 4 people paid by EA/BW to have a 24-hour pro-swtor presence on MMO-C.

    Don't take it personally, the whole shill thing is tongue-in-cheek taking this to an alternate extreme to show a point. It's not intended to be a personal attack. People post what they feel, and more so when it's something they feel strongly (whether that be positive or negative).

    As someone still very much on the fence about the game I enjoy seeing the legitimate negative concerns as well as seeing the positive aspects that really make me want to give the game a shot. (And it really is pretty easy to weed out the real troll posts on the forums).
    Last edited by rudehero; 2012-01-15 at 12:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertarian View Post
    That is not trolling. Just because he posts multiple threads, does not mean the argument is invalid.
    This. I've seen people post in multiple threads about how zealously they LOVE the game, and how its the most addictive thing since crack, and how the story is SO amazing and- and-.

    But it's ok, they're not trolls, despite their repeated statement of the same opinion? Double standards are great.

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    When your using multiple accounts and different forums to spout your opinion, it does become trolling.

    Especially when your basically saying the same stuff over and over. So that makes people come out to defend the game, against people that are just bashing the game over and over. Just because Im not a fan of WoW, Im not going to bash it over and over.

    I will defend the good stuff of SWTOR, the storylines.

    Come on moderators can we get these bashing threads stopped?
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    The guy makes a lot of good points. They do need to add combat log support yesterday, they do need to address character responsiveness etc.

    He uses fairly presumptuous and irritating language so I'm going to guess this is what riled you up. But its hard to disagree with all he's saying.

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