1. #10921
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    Brood still sucks, brood + furi is fucking annoying as shit and makes games boring as hell.

  2. #10922
    When you see this http://dotabuff.com/heroes/broodmoth...ate=patch_6.79 you understand why she has such win rate, is not that she suck, is the people play it wrong or pick her when the enemy have a shit ton of aoe.

  3. #10923
    Quote Originally Posted by Masterik View Post
    When you see this http://dotabuff.com/heroes/broodmoth...ate=patch_6.79 you understand why she has such win rate, is not that she suck, is the people play it wrong or pick her when the enemy have a shit ton of aoe.
    or pubs dont have a clue how to play in a game with certain heroes, especially how to make a room for splitpusher (or for a farming carry)

    but briefly looking through heroes with lower winrate this patch and Im actually surprised how many "good" heroes are below brood. Ok, the micro oriented ones like ench, chen, invoker or meepo are kinda obvious, but pretty high impact teamfight specialists like qop, puck, magnus, bat, tinker? or stellar heroes like morph, clinkz, PA, naga and skywrath? seems weird, even tho i think morph was always low-ish for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevokcz View Post
    or pubs dont have a clue how to play in a game with certain heroes, especially how to make a room for splitpusher (or for a farming carry)

    but briefly looking through heroes with lower winrate this patch and Im actually surprised how many "good" heroes are below brood. Ok, the micro oriented ones like ench, chen, invoker or meepo are kinda obvious, but pretty high impact teamfight specialists like qop, puck, magnus, bat, tinker? or stellar heroes like morph, clinkz, PA, naga and skywrath? seems weird, even tho i think morph was always low-ish for some reason.
    I think it's because they are positional heroes. That's what people struggle with. Being able to have a clear mind and understand where to stand and when to go in isn't something that most players can do. It's one of those things that differentiate bads from goods. QoP is very reliant on dong high nuke without drawing focus fire. Sure, Blink on 6 sec cooldown might seem good but you die very fast. Tinker is the same, not getting caught and doing good marches and the hero has high mechanical demand. Soul Ring, Blink, Laser, Rocket, Bottle, Rearm. It's very many spells and you have to be quite used to the hero to do it fast and efficient.

    As you can see, most of the heroes with highest win percent are heroes that don't require much positioning in fights.

  5. #10925
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariadne View Post
    I think it's because they are positional heroes. That's what people struggle with. Being able to have a clear mind and understand where to stand and when to go in isn't something that most players can do. It's one of those things that differentiate bads from goods. QoP is very reliant on dong high nuke without drawing focus fire. Sure, Blink on 6 sec cooldown might seem good but you die very fast. Tinker is the same, not getting caught and doing good marches and the hero has high mechanical demand. Soul Ring, Blink, Laser, Rocket, Bottle, Rearm. It's very many spells and you have to be quite used to the hero to do it fast and efficient.

    As you can see, most of the heroes with highest win percent are heroes that don't require much positioning in fights.
    Yea, its likely that + the fact, that regular pubs have issues with executing good followup after innitators, so even if you are mag/puck and manage to get 4man coil/RP, if your team doesnt react properly, its a wasted CD.

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    WTF is with these model changes, some of them look awful. The new pudge is shite.

    November 21, 2013 - Valve

    - New Venomancer model
    - Update to Gyrocopter model
    - Update to Axe visuals
    - Update to Luna model
    - Update to Omniknight colors
    - Update to Dazzle model
    - Update to Pudge model
    - Necrolyte changed to Necrophos
    - Windrunner changed to Windranger
    - Lycanthrope changed to Lycan
    - Updated Necrophos voice processing.
    - Bug Fix : Unusual Couriers will properly stop Unusual Effects on death.
    - Workshop Fix : Workshop weapon submissions for Abaddon will include materialize/dematerialize settings.
    - Added Teammate cooperation survey question


    Diretide:

    - More Flesh Heap fixes for Diretide
    - Cleave no longer affects Roshan in Diretide
    - Roshan movement cannot be obstructed during Sugar Rush
    - Magic Resistance increase reduced from 10 per level to 5 per level
    - Base Magic Resistance increased from 0 to 50%

    Edit, seems the popular belief is that its because of HotS coming out featuring many of the characters dota was based on, hence copyright. I really hope the pudge model is just temporary though and they do something to make him look more menacing and less of just a fat guy.
    Last edited by hiragana; 2013-11-22 at 04:43 PM.

  7. #10927
    Quote Originally Posted by hiragana View Post
    Edit, seems the popular belief is that its because of HotS coming out featuring many of the characters dota was based on, hence copyright. I really hope the pudge model is just temporary though and they do something to make him look more menacing and less of just a fat guy.
    arcana item maybe

  8. #10928
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    >Necrolyte changed to Necrophos

    u wot m8

  9. #10929
    what was wrong with windrunner an necrolyte?

  10. #10930
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    what was wrong with windrunner an necrolyte?
    They appear to have been worried about Blizzard claiming copyright, considered they are both names from Blizzard franchises. I don't know if that was ever confirmed or denied, but that seems to be the likely reason.

  11. #10931
    Windrunner certainly is, but they could have at least made it Wind Ranger instead of Windranger ._.

  12. #10932
    Quote Originally Posted by Alaitoc View Post
    >Necrolyte changed to Necrophos

    u wot m8
    "phos" means "light" in greek

    necrolight

    blizzard could be pushing because they're gonna have windrunner in their game (sylvanas? alleria? vereesa?)

    who knows

    i feel like it really doesnt matter at all

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    1) The fuck with NecroLYTE's voice now? Slowed down 200% does not make it better.
    2) Pudge now looks like a clumsy farmer instead of an undead monstrosity.

  14. #10934
    Quote Originally Posted by Omertocracy View Post
    2) Pudge now looks like a clumsy farmer instead of an undead monstrosity.
    But... clumsy farmers are much more horrifying and are much likely to prey on human flesh rather some imaginary undead monstrosities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omertocracy View Post
    1) The fuck with NecroLYTE's voice now? Slowed down 200% does not make it better.
    2) Pudge now looks like a clumsy farmer instead of an undead monstrosity.
    Necro's voice if fucking retarded now.


    And they ruined my god damn set on pudge, looks like crap now

  16. #10936
    Look folks, it's me! On the left, white MMOC t-shirt.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6k9GRUol4

  17. #10937
    seeing dendi play windrunner after so long was really nice , what do you guys think about many surprising results during mlg , like DK wrecking the shit out of everyone or sigma and speedgaming pushing more expected teams hard

  18. #10938
    Holy. Fuck. That game 1 of speed vs DK was amazing

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    All those 3 games were great. Amazing how much damage clinkz can dish out. Glad i bet on speed gaming .

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiragana View Post
    All those 3 games were great. Amazing how much damage clinkz can dish out. Glad i bet on speed gaming .
    All three games were indeed great, although the 40 minutes in-between kills of game one was a little boring! I was very happy with the results though! I'm a big SingSing fanboy and was cheering hard for Speed Gaming. It was a very impressive showing for their first LAN event, especially considering the "drama" that their now ex-manager decided to publish right before the finals.

    MLG Columbus was the first E-Sports event I've attended in person and it did not disappoint. The crowd was large but (mostly) respectful, the layout was fantastic, the vendors were nice, there were a ton of great games, and I got a picture with SingSing and a couple dozen autographs on my PC's side panel (I will post pics later).
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