They're also the vast majority of the games played, and therefore what the real community actually looks like. This is kind of my point, if you only play with tier1 players in tourneys and private leagues you aren't seeing the community. If you play random solo queue in LoL you are much closer. However the majority of the players act is how the community looks. And from TDA to tilt to THR to cash now, mainstream public DotA has always been filthy. I'd say maybe it's a fault of my playing on only NA servers and typically playing with Americans, but I can't recall ever seeing a foreigner open his mouth except to be insulting.
In fact, pretty much nobody opens his mouth to say something nice. That's why the community is the way it is =p
Haha Lysah, "peace-loving hippies" and "worst corner of the community", is there no middle thing?
I think dota 2 will be better. If only because of the buyback option
It is a huge difference, not only to creeps but also on towers >AND< heroes. Just look at it this way... in LoL you have ignite... a lovely DoT right?Well just thinking about it it is a silly premise. Doesn't make you any more skilled and you wouldn't destroy your own soldiers or defenses even to deny them *xp/gold*.
My 2 cents.
What if the lane partner denied the hero when it was about to die to the last 2 ticks of your dot? No xp, no gold. That is HUGE. Same goes with creeps. denying an entire wave would leave them hungry for XP and gold. (You will outlevel your enemy big time) Your 2 cents are cool and all but...
All communities are rotten, however DotA2 from what I've seen is pretty calm. Sure I've seen a bit of flamers but nothing like DotA/HoN yet. But I guess this will change when OB comes. Also the fact that I've clocked hundreds of hours in the other games and ~15-16 in DotA2.Also, the DotA community is easily the worst. I've seen LoL and HoN, they're both full of peace loving hippies as far as I'm concerned. DotA 1 is NOT any better than DotA 2
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Also wtf is up with these keybeggers in these threads? ><
◕ ‿ ◕ uguu~
Nice! Just got my DOTA2 invite.
Excited to try the new version.
Alright, this is gonna sound dumb as all heck.... but where is the center camera button? I fiddled around the options and went to wiki and couldn't really find an answer.
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Gotta say, I am finding the controls and lack of clarity to be an obstacle. :/
I like the lobby, very HON-ish.
The controls are meant to be as copy/paste from DotA1 as possible, so that people who have played way too much don't notice a difference. I still use legacy keys, for that matter, QWER is just too LoL.
Pretend you're playing Warcraft III and maybe it'll feel better.
Didn't play WC3 much, hehe. I'm still trying. Just feel like things aren't quite as clearly presented as they should be. Also I am fighting the controls a lot. There is something weird in the animations that is just very uncomfortable. The way heroes pace is not quite snappy.
One thing I noticed is the range of attack for heroes and towers is HUGE. Holy moley! I died like 4 times thinking I was well out of tower range. :[
Okay, thanks for the tip.
Are the towers meant to fire that fast though?
Between wrestling with the camera, the towers fire off like 2-3 shots at HUGE ranges before I can react. By the time I click to move, the 2nd or 3rd fireball is on the way. I just played a game as Ice Maiden. Got insta killed by the two towers in the enemy base- each shot 2 fireballs at me as I was running behind my creep wave.
There is a lot of "I died and am not sure what hit me" so far. Enemy moves are not easy to read and the range of spells, towers, champions seems sorta extreme.
And the teleporting. Holy shit.
Getting my arse kicked.
P.S. Fuck Zeus. That Ultimate. DAMN.