100 US Marines vs 5000 Alliance soldiers

[Agent Mercury]

No army would go in with 50 to 1 odds anyway. The Marines would be more likely pissing their pants and running into the mountains than standing their ground.

Demerits! Demerits for everyone! You ran away from pixels!

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It was never specified how much ammo the marines have, so making assumptions either way is out of the question. I have just as much right to say that they won't run out of ammo as you have to say that they will, so there's no point discussing the logistics of it.

Also I don't think they could just send wave after wave of pets. If they could, Arthas would have never been able to rape Dalaran. Don't be unrealistic.

Well they could but Arthas didn't just sit there and take it. He was sending wave after wave at your base and your Archmage/Jaina couldn't make them fast enough. =P

[Vulpei]

Also I don't think they could just send wave after wave of pets. If they could, Arthas would have never been able to rape Dalaran. Don't be unrealistic.

Arthas had wave after wave of his own pets though, so they cancel each other out and the balance is the zombies made from the dead mages. Don't discount lore because you want your side to win.

[Thrive]

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Warlock uses Rain of Fire.

Pretty damn sure modern day marines, in any sense of the words, would burn to death.

Yes, you can shoot the warlock if you can target them, but when you're burning and there's a consistent amount of meteors falling on you, I doubt you will hit.

Ya your right, those warlocks can get within 20m of a US marine.

[Agent Mercury]

Ya your right, those warlocks can get within 20m of a US marine.

Soulstone and pop it when they have advanced past you.

[Vulpei]

Ya your right, those warlocks can get within 20m of a US marine.

20m is a game mechanic so not relevant.

[Callace]

I think even with standard service rifles, the marines would be able to simply pick off all of the alliance troops at a distance before they could come within range of their own weapons.

[vizzle]

Arthas had wave after wave of his own pets though, so they cancel each other out and the balance is the zombies made from the dead mages. Don't discount lore because you want your side to win.

And we have wave after wave of bullets and grenades... if you're going to count Arthas' scourge as pets, then bullets and grenades are the same thing.

[Vulpei]

And we have wave after wave of bullets and grenades... if you're going to count Arthas' scourge as pets, then bullets and grenades are the same thing.

No, bullets are bullets. The Marines are just Marines, not Magic Super Marines. The Alliance are Magic Super Medieval Warriors though, so they get special considerations like being able to summon semi-sentinent being from other dimensions.

[casecase89]

So you mean, 5000 guys with swords and bows? Lame. Jaina could solo them

[vizzle]

No, bullets are bullets. The Marines are just Marines, not Magic Super Marines. The Alliance are Magic Super Medieval Warriors though, so they get special considerations like being able to summon semi-sentinent being from other dimensions.

If the mages in WoW were actually as powerful as the mages that you seem to think they are, then we would never have a war between Horde and Alliance because apparently they would just crush each other under waves of demon testicles and water elementals. It would just be who has 1 more mage than the other. They do not have an unlimited supply of pets.

We would never have to fight Old Gods because we could just bury them in graves of pets, we would never have to fight Deathwing because we could just summon a billion water elementals, we would never have to fight anything because apparently we have unlimited pets.

[Locruid]

No, bullets are bullets. The Marines are just Marines, not Magic Super Marines. The Alliance are Magic Super Medieval Warriors though, so they get special considerations like being able to summon semi-sentinent being from other dimensions.

They not even real marines with most crap stripped from them lol.

Interestingly, You ask who would when AFTER stripping the Marines of most of their abilities?

[Vulpei]

If the mages in WoW were actually as powerful as the mages that you seem to think they are, then we would never have a war between Horde and Alliance because apparently they would just crush each other under waves of demon testicles and water elementals. It would just be who has 1 more mage than the other. They do not have an unlimited supply of pets.

War of attrition, you just need enough to keep the marines penned in till they run out of ammo. You can run out of arrows for your archers in a fair equivilence, then the mages retire and you let the 1000 melee you brought along fight with swords and battle axes against the Marine daggers.

Mages can port anywhere outside of game mechanics, so suppies are no problem, and 5k could easily hold 100 in a siege in the mountains, with gryphons scouting them.

[vizzle]

War of attrition, you just need enough to keep the marines penned in till they run out of ammo. You can run out of arrows for your archers in a fair equivilence, then the mages retire and you let the 1000 melee you brought along fight with swords and battle axes against the Marine daggers.

And how do you know the marines don't have thousands of boxes of ammo? Mages run out of mana, and they need time to replenish it.

[Opiatesofsilicon]

Eh.. I may not know how many marines it would take to take on 5000 alliance members. However, i know that it would only take ONE Dalek to deal with 5000 alliance members

[The Stormbringer]

Fairly certain the Alliance forces could win. If we're talking strictly Warcraft 3 sort of army here, then the Footmen would drop into defensive formation with their thick shields and armor to deflect as much of the Marines fire as possible, while Knights would attempt to flank, Riflemen would lay down cover fire, and Sorceresses would Polymorph as many Marines as possible. With Priests keeping up injured Footmen with their heals, I would say we've got a victory on our hands for the side of the Azeroth forces.

And what about flying units? Flying Machines and Gryphons are also considered soldiers in that era, so you would give the Azerothians air support as well.

EDIT: If the Marines had time to prepare, I'm sure they'd be able to dig up some quick (albeit not super deep) trenches, set up claymores, and establish proper fields of fire to help them out. Even so, I still think the Alliance forces (even just from Warcraft 3) would beat them. The numbers and the MAGIC give the clear advantage.

[Stormgnoef]

Pfft all you need is some suicide palas with c4 and buble.

[Vulpei]

And how do you know the marines don't have thousands of boxes of ammo? Mages run out of mana, and they need time to replenish it.

And how do you know the mages don't have trillions of points of mana? Marines run out of ammo, and they have very few options of replenishing in the field.

[Agent Mercury]

If the mages in WoW were actually as powerful as the mages that you seem to think they are, then we would never have a war between Horde and Alliance because apparently they would just crush each other under waves of demon testicles and water elementals. It would just be who has 1 more mage than the other. They do not have an unlimited supply of pets.

We would never have to fight Old Gods because we could just bury them in graves of pets, we would never have to fight Deathwing because we could just summon a billion water elementals, we would never have to fight anything because apparently we have unlimited pets.

Then there would be no game and then no money.

[vaeevictiss]

regardless, the marines will probably want the upperhand and will bring air support. a pair of A10's can clear a battlefield pretty god damn fast

[Rhyseh]

Am I the only one who thinks comparing an unquantifiable enemy on unknown terrain seems rather silly?

Either way I am pretty sure the numerically superiour, oh lets not forget magical, army will probably win. On a related note this thread needs more cowbell: