Our Challenge set for PvE looks frickin FANTASTIC! In all regards....
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SUCCESS!
Our Challenge set for PvE looks frickin FANTASTIC! In all regards....
EDIT: HUGE IMAGE! Hold on..
Attempt2:..
SUCCESS!
Last edited by Malthanis; 2012-08-07 at 05:57 PM.
That challenge set alone is a reason to keep my ret as my main.. I am so gonna be loving MOP this far.
I'm benching my Enhancement Shaman (only melee spec that I found even remotely fun in Cata) for a brand new ret paladin. The overall changes are a huge step in the right direction and the revised paladin toolkit is real good. I just need to get over the fact that my action bars are going to look like a piano once all my binds/macros are in place....
so my fellow rets, what are your thoughts on the new build changes??
we got some buffs and nerfs (or tone downs, since this is beta) but the most important thing imo is santity of battle is MELEE haste again instead of spell haste
i kinda feel like that way...but in all seriousness, my judgements were hitting a good deal harder then my templar's verdict in some cases
where i was hitting 100k judges and 80k TVs
During Holy Avenger you get Ashbringer + you gain 5 holy power(because Ret(I think holy does to) have the back up 2 holypower) EACH time you JUDGE, Exo(instant now with CD) or Crusader Strike a foe. but aye i'm happy and i'm basicly danceing till GC comes and smacks me with the nerf-hammer because a mage(who I might add never really got nerfed..since..wha? ever?) cries to GC about how he can't hold me at bay or steal my wings.
also..I did around 100k dps during burn phase for about a second or a half when I popped Everything I had to pop during hero. again BETA IS beta and is subjected to change. but i'm happy
Well, our sustained dmg definitely got quite a nerf. But Templars Verdict and t4 Talents got a huge buff.
We will have to TV as often as possible. While that was the case before, it is even more so now.
I am really not sure what to take @ t4 now. Prolly Wings in PvP.. Or Holy Avenger? Or 25% divine purpose? -_-...
But Sword of Light nerf looks really heavy :/.. From 20% down to 10%.. Well, Blizzard should make sure that dmg is where it is supposed to be. But that was a lot of nerfs and I dunno if the buffs make up for that. We definitely have greater burst now, but as long as we are in line with the rest, I am okay with that. Buffing dmg is always the least bit of effort for Blizzard.. I rather do less dmg which gets fixed than having sanctity of battle scaling on caster haste which does not get fixed. So, bottom line.. It looks like the right direction again for ret.. Let's hope that there will not be another sudden u-turn from smart to retard.
Censure damage reduced by 15%.
Hammer of Wrath damage reduced by 20%.
Judgment damage and AP scaling reduced by 20%.
Seal of Truth additional damage reduced to 12%, down from 14%.
Exorcism damage reduced by 15%.
Sword of Light now increases the damage you deal with two-handed melee weapons by 10%, down from 20%.
Bye Bye Excitement
On a serious note, does this make truth quite close to justice now? Lol...
In regards to the "Nerfs" they are just number adjustments. Almost every class had abilities damage reduced across the board. Don't stress it =) We are still in a decent place number-wise.Censure damage reduced by 15%.
Hammer of Wrath damage reduced by 20%.
Judgment damage and AP scaling reduced by 20%.
Seal of Truth additional damage reduced to 12%, down from 14%.
Exorcism damage reduced by 15%.
Sword of Light now increases the damage you deal with two-handed melee weapons by 10%, down from 20%.
Bye Bye Excitement
On a serious note, does this make truth quite close to justice now? Lol...
It IS interesting if trust becomes closer to justice in terms of damage though. They are def making it more appealing in terms of PvP.
Glad you're enjoying the new class as well
I'm retiring my 2.2k Moonkin/Feral that i've been palying for 7+ years ~_~;; It's an odd feelings haha.
As for the actions bars, i honestly had to get a razor naga for pvp ret. Having party 1-3 for wog freedom bop and sac is HUGE. PvE you can probably make due without it though :3 Just keep yourself organized so it makes sense to you.
Ret is looking good!
My biggest concerns are;
1. They nerfed sword of light pretty heavily. This is very risky imo, it will have a massive effect on our damage, that I don't completely expect they know about. Look what happened when they tweaked warriors one? They went from being UP to OP. Everyone got abilities nerfed, as did we, plus we got a flat out 10% nerf. If this all levels out to be the same as it was before, in terms of dps meters, fine. But I think that the Sword of light change was pretty OTT, and unfortunately have little faith left to believe that if it is they will bother fixing it, at least before launch.
2. The nerfs also included buffs to our burst damage? This is just wrong. They nerfed our sustained and buffed our burst (provided you dont take sanctified wrath). This doesn't make any sense, it means that all the hard work they have done in this expansion has been destroyed. We will still be pop pot, guardian, stack all burst cooldowns. Majority of people do not like to play WITH this kind of class (pvp team) or play against it, it will, like history has shown, be nerfed. And once it does, its highly unlikely we will get this sustained back that they tried so hard to move us towards. Its just a disappointment really.
Yeah, the Sword of Light change is what worried me the most out of all of the nerfs. It doesn't matter what numbers they adjust if we're getting a flat 10% damage reduction to all our melee (which now includes Judgement). What really sucks is the Exo nerf, I was really starting to love it being used on cooldown for massive ranged damage. With the Holy Avenger change we're going to go back to being the class at the top of the meters...for the first 20 seconds of the fight.
Honestly, blizzard made it perfectly clear their vision for ret is not just burst damage. They are just still numbers tweaking, we are going to see a hell of a lot more of it between now and into MoP. There is a thread already going about our "Nerfs" Lets try to keep the conversation positive and constructive here! =3
Do we know what would be the best profession for ret pally? Or do we still need to wait a bit longer to see if 1 primary stat is better or worse than 2 secondary stat?