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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Vokal View Post
    I lol'd.

    I guess you meant all those pointless boring lame dailies.
    Other than those, there's pet battles. And waiting for your crops to grow.

  2. #22
    Uh it's been what, 2 weeks? In a new expac? Give it some time at least.

    If I had the time personally I'd be on all day but I can't, and most of my raiding group is still leveling or havnt leveled their char yet because they've been away.

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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Vokal View Post
    I lol'd.
    Then wake up. There's tons of stuff to do. In addition to more pvp maps, we have the motivation to spend time running around Pandaria doing all kinds of cool stuff, and it helps your guild and friends progress to do it. This expac has way more max level content than any before- so much more than Blizzard is staggering the raids.


    Because it begs the question, if only 1% of the playerbase raids, how long will Blizzard continue to pour so much development resources into raids?

    It's just very different than what has happened with the last couple of expacs.
    Only 1% of the playerbase raids the first week raids are open when no one knows how to do the bosses and everyone is in stupid idiotic greens and everyone is bad still. Yea. Real good sample. What ever will the most successful by an order of magnitude MMO do now that players who aren't hardcore aren't able to raid LAST WEEK. OMG. Maybe they'll wait UNTIL THIS WEEK. Gosh, that was hard.

    Remember- by your argument, Blizzard was erroneous to pour much effort into max level content- after all, only 66% of the players who bought mop even levelled up to 90. Hold the phone guys! We don't need arena and RBGs and raids- we need more level 88 dungeons... right?

    And IS it different over what happened?

    How many players were raiding Kara week 1?
    How many players were in Naxx week 1? And Naxx was way to super easy.
    How many players were downing bosses in BWD week 1?


    If you tell me that 2% of the population is raiding by the end of the month, I'll definitely agree there's an issue. Hell, if my group 2 can't kill dumb flurrydogs today after practicing on it last week, I'll definitely be in favor of them doing that. I don't like overtuned content, I don't like unbeatable content. I'm saying, that it's WAY to early to call that.

    Hell, I bet LFR bumps those numbers all to shame.

  4. #24
    66% of the playerbase doesn't rush through content. This is a good thing.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Dilbon View Post
    Other than those, there's pet battles. And waiting for your crops to grow.
    There is also hunting and successfully killing rare world elites. There are world bosses. There are hidden lore scroll items all over the world. There are hidden flavor items all over the world you can vendor for 100 gold or more. There are rare quality weapons you can find laying on the ground in the world. There are pets you can hunt and cage and sell.

    That's what I've been spending most of my time doing when not leveling.
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  6. #26
    We are close to raiding, but on a med pop server that we (alliance) are basically a low pop side it is still very hard to find enough people raid ready yet.

    Still waiting for Blizz to find a good fix for inbalanced/low pop servers......PLEASE

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterHamster View Post
    How many hundreds of thousands are in the same situation as I am, waiting for my guild to get enough 90s to maintain 10 raiders.
    Probably many. Obviously the hardcore raid guilds and very dedicated raid guilds are raiding now, but the average guild that raids? Not so much. And it's been this way for every expansion so far for me and every guild that I know of that isn't competing for server firsts and such, so no it's really not different from previous expansions to the poster that said it was. We were a more hardcore group in WLK than we are now and our first week of raiding we had to do it with quite a few less than 25 because not everyone on our raid team was leveled yet.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Dilbon View Post
    Other than those, there's pet battles. And waiting for your crops to grow.

    rofl

    10/10 funny stuff right here

    Sad how it's true though.....
    Last edited by Vokal; 2012-10-09 at 11:06 PM.

  9. #29
    We are missing a few people and we opted to try challenge modes rather than pugging MV while we work on getting a full raid grp.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Verain View Post
    Then wake up. There's tons of stuff to do. In addition to more pvp maps, we have the motivation to spend time running around Pandaria doing all kinds of cool stuff, and it helps your guild and friends progress to do it. This expac has way more max level content than any before- so much more than Blizzard is staggering the raids.

    You mean all those lame pointless boring dailies?

  11. #31
    Because obviously Pet Battles, Farmville, PvP, rep grinding for cool Mounts, and re-rolling Monks are ALL a million times better than going out of your way to do a generic boss fight...

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Vokal View Post
    You mean all those lame pointless boring dailies?

    There is also hunting and successfully killing rare world elites. There are world bosses. There are hidden lore scroll items all over the world. There are hidden flavor items all over the world you can vendor for 100 gold or more. There are rare quality weapons you can find laying on the ground in the world. There are pets you can hunt and cage and sell.

    That's what I've been spending most of my time doing when not leveling.
    You can also find bind on account heirlooms lying on the ground in the world to hunt in Pandaria. You can also do battlegrounds and arenas and world pvp.
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    Considering the huge amount of extra end-game content they have put into the experience, it doesn't surprise me that people are not all rushing the raid content. They did an extraordinary job of giving us choices this time around. Even I, who has more or less exclusively played to raid for eight years, am being distracted by the variety of fun activities going on in the world.

    Of course, non-raiding isn't for everyone. I have been there and done that. But it is very rewarding after years of strictly doing one thing in a game to suddenly have several additional options to keep you busy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vokal View Post
    You mean all those lame pointless boring dailies?
    As you do the dailies, you get rep with both factions and NPCs in the game. The further you get with these, the more storyline elements and quests open up for you. They arn't boring, you just need to take the time to enjoy them (reading helps with this).
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    Gold and the 'need' for it in-game is easily one of the most overblown mindsets in this community.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Yig View Post
    There are pets you can hunt and cage and sell.
    This is not true. The rest of your post is, but you definitely aren't capturing pets through the pet battle system and then caging them.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Verain View Post
    This is not true. The rest of your post is, but you definitely aren't capturing pets through the pet battle system and then caging them.
    That sucks, I was planning on doing that.
    I thought since I caged and sold my spare sprite darter I could do the same thing by capturing them in the world.
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    I'm too caught up in Pokemon and Farmville, oops, I mean pet battles and cooking.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Vokal View Post
    You mean all those lame pointless boring dailies?
    It's not pointless if it buffs your group, dude.

    It's also not pointless if it gives you access to valor gear bro!

    Plus, the cooking is a pretty fun minigame.

    And has been pointed out, there's an absolutely splendid world to spend time in this time around.

    You can also gank people again, which is nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaddriel View Post
    Because it begs the question, if only 1% of the playerbase raids, how long will Blizzard continue to pour so much development resources into raids?

    It's just very different than what has happened with the last couple of expacs.
    Maybe mid tier it might start begging that question...right now it begs skewed data.
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  19. #39
    Contrary to how it may seem, raiding isn't actually the main thing to do for WoW's end game. It's only in the past few years that more people have started raiding, and even at that, large parts of the player base still don't (at least not beyond maybe the first boss or two when they become easily puggable). The LFR is of course changing that, but LFR is incredibly new relative to how long WoW's been out.

    And the xpac's only been out a few weeks, of course not many people are raiding yet, not many people are ready to raid.

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    Oh, you can also find a recipe for a magical drink that gives your character a red Cursed Vision of Sargeras mask hidden in the world zones on top of mountains and stuff.
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