Dont get why so many seems to think the comp is strange :3 That fight MAJORLY favors multidotters. Aka druids/locks
Dont get why so many seems to think the comp is strange :3 That fight MAJORLY favors multidotters. Aka druids/locks
You know why it is significantly lower? Because all the good guilds doing 25.
25man has way more possibilities/opportunities to make mistakes.
I always found 10man more easy since coordination is so easy and mechanics are less complex. I found 25 more easy during majority of T11. In T12 I found 25 harder. In T13, it was different, both difficulties had their easy and hard fights. And fights with mechanics like seeds at rag or defile, always are harder on 25 since there are 15ppl extra that can cause the raid to wipe. Fight with 1 person makes a mistake -> wipe always are harder in 25. But ye if the mistakes don't lead to a wipe, then 25 is easier.
But anyway, we still have to see 25man world first, I think it are 2 different leagues.
Gratz to Paragon for their 10man world first.
And blizz did again a poor job on class balance when i look at the comp. Srsly nerf multidotting
Now lets see them do that with 4 shamans in the grp.
Anyways they were the best at 25 man (Would of cleared DS 1st if it wasn't for the LFR exploit ban) and have been since ICC. Now they the best at 10man and have been since ICC
LK10 hc, Ragnaros HC they also had world 1st 10man kills.
Except there isn't 4 druids on the kill, if you look at the screenshot, one of the balance druids is playing a rogue. There's a guardian druid, a balance druid and a resto druid, one of each.
STOP TRYING TO MAKE BLIZZARD NERF ME! BUFF FERAL DPS!
No, that is a druid using the item that drops from Scholomance,
http://www.wowhead.com/item=88566
stack more of the same classes please
Well...
10-man having an average of 10+ ilvl from most of the 25-man and aswell from the other 10-man?
Nah.... Did 25-man..Got boosted <gear> and qq .
No fair play at all.
Of course 25 man guilds didn't do something like that ether. They didn't clear first few bosses twice on launch day because instances were reset after realm was up. And of course they ran only one raid full of their mains instead of running several raids to get max gear for their mains. Right?
Don't be silly. All top guilds made everything possible to get best possible gear for their main team.
For the people debating whether or not this is a world first, just going to leave this little tidbit here from the wow devs:
Grats DREAM Paragon for tackling the newest content in the hardest mode (10 man.) I look forward to more world firsts from you!In 25s you can afford to have a few deaths and you can even pull if you're backfilling a few players. Both really make you stop in your tracks on 10s. In 25, it's easier to fade back into the group if you're still not 100% confident in what you're doing. In 10s, it's harder to be a wallflower.
I am confused.
Is it a 10 man kill, or a World First? It can't be both.
Congratulations DREAM Paragon! You are my favorite World of Warcraft guild in EU.
Congrats, DREAM-Paragon!
inc warlock nerfs, mage/monk/druid/ priest buffs
Irregardless if they used two boomkins and this fight probably required multi-dot classes.
10 man raiders aren't people. You 10 manners can try all you want to suggest that 10 and 25 are equal, but they most certainly are not. To kill a 25 man boss takes more coordination, there is less room to spread for mechanics, it's much easier to class stack, and you have 15 less people to worry about killing themselves.
This, "World First" is nothing. I for one am still excitedly watching the race for the true World First. As I reside on Illidan, I'm rooting for Blood Legion. Good luck guys.
Whoever takes the true World First, I congratulate you.
To Paragon, you guys have opened up the idea that 10 mans are equally difficult as 25 mans by making your wimpy mistake of switching to 10 man. For that, your guild is dead to me. You are no longer people.
There is so much rage and ignorance in this statement that makes it laughable at best. You obviously know absolutely NOTHING about raiding. There is NO difference between 10 and 25 other than it is balanced slightly different to accommodate and justify the presence of 25 people. Blizzard has CONFIRMED there is no vast difference in terms of difficulty in wrath and from there on. Get over yourself and stop trying to make others feel bad. Besides, if you have such a high and mighty opinion about it then where is your heroic achievement for clearing it since its so easy? Let me guess, you are going to say you don't play anymore. Why post about it then? It doesn't affect you. The first kill of a boss, regardless of 10 or 25, is the FIRST. End of story. There is no room to debate its validity just because of the amount of people present.