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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    To be fair, this isn't a kind of bullying I'm familiar with. Bullying when I was in school was the typical physical/direct-verbal kind, and handling that's probably different from having people e-stalk you. Myspace wasn't well known when I was still in school and by time I graduated Facebook was still just a little-known college-only thing.
    Basically to be e-bullied you need to give them something. Pretty much the same thing as trolling, you give them your attention and anger and they're fueled forever, you give them nothing, they go away and find someone else, especially on the internet. Give them nudes, well, you're fucked, they're out there on the internet and there's no way you'll ever get them erased.

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    I've already expressed my opinions on this matter somewhere else. I'll be happy to do it here, too.

    I think what she's "telling" is not true. She flashed a guy on a webcam and that magically made everyone hate her? And the guy that "used" her, all of a sudden, he called her without prior being friends? And cheated on his girlfriend?
    I find this entire story to be a bit sketchy. I mean come on, all that because of a pair of boobs?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    This is so sad.

    That despicable douchebag who did this to her should burn in hell. He had no possible justification for what he did. People like that, and the people who are inevitably going to defend him and blame the victim instead, make me sick.
    So, the way to end bullying is to spread hatred of individuals, and call them names, and tell them they should "burn in hell"
    sounds like a plan my friend.

    sounds like the kinda stuff that got Amanda to kill herself...
    in reality the only way to end bullying is to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you (not bully the "bullys") and that idea has been around for quite a while now.
    -Matthew 5-
    In the interest of time...
    I've selected a few automatic responses
    1.) atleast I have a Life
    2.) haha, l2play noob!
    3.) your a troll
    4.) *insert correct grammar*
    5.) *correct lore and my personal opinion on an entirely fictional character within an entirely fictional storyline(said like its based on scientific facts)*

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    Quote Originally Posted by The EagleOwl Mage View Post
    You don't seem to understand how bad the bullying was. It stopped becoming a matter of growing a spine a long time ago. It wasn't just a few kids, it was up to 50 or more hounding her at every school she went too.
    When you flash someone on the internet and you don't even know this person, you have to at least think of the consequences. Even someone at the age of 15 should know that. If not, well, this girl has just given a lesson to everyone who thinks of doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digglett View Post
    We get it, it doesn't matter if you knew her personally or not, it's bad this happened, but not everyone HAS to feel sorry for her.
    No, but you should probably exhibit some form of understanding instead of saying "Should have grown a spine"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naidia View Post
    When you flash someone on the internet and you don't even know this person, you have to at least think of the consequences. Even someone at the age of 15 should know that. If not, well, this girl has just given a lesson to everyone who thinks of doing it.
    So death is a consequence of this mistake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illintent420 View Post
    Been happening for centuries. Another way to weed out the weak. While yes it sad this girl killed herself. People need to stop being such cry baby bitches. I mourn the human race in the future where everyone will sue/report/cry fowl for anything/everything. Toughen up your kids for humanity, if not for you or them, for your grandchildren.
    Who the fuck cares either way? If the human race died out, who would be left to mourn over it? No one. No one would care. The rise of humanity would be nothing but a meaningless interruption in the flow of time. The universe is indifferent to our existence so quit with the self importance.

    This thread infuriates me. It's the "oh my god, so tragic" crowd that keeps euthanasia laws so strict or non existent at all. Who the hell thinks they can tell someone they aren't allowed to die? People believe in abortion and the death penalty, but a grown man isn't allowed to die peacefully at the time of his own choosing? BULLSHIT. Society has embraced the idea that you're allowed to suffer endlessly but you aren't allowed to kill yourself, and it's sick. Governments pull anything and everything off the market that helps people die peacefully and it's tyrannical and cruel as fuck. It's not just people with depression or emo teens who want to die, some people have mind crushing physical ailments or are simply old and tired of living. Who they hell are we to stand in their way? Who are we to decide what kinds of things people should and shouldn't put up with? These kinds of bullshit laws exist only because of social guilt. Look at the Huffington Post site, people have shown up just to tell a deceased teenager that they are sorry. Suicide has been part of my life for 20 years. Been there, tried and failed that, been locked up for it, repeat. This stuff doesn't shock me, and it really shouldn't shock anyone else. I keep helium tanks in my room and a suicide note on my desk. Who cares; we're all mortal. If people are really going to preach about human rights, then people deserve the right to end their suffering.

    Now that my rant is over, I can say that bullies are assholes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The EagleOwl Mage View Post
    So death is a consequence of this mistake?
    I think he was referring to the bullying, no one forced her to kill herself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vep View Post
    I've already expressed my opinions on this matter somewhere else. I'll be happy to do it here, too.

    I think what she's "telling" is not true. She flashed a guy on a webcam and that magically made everyone hate her? And the guy that "used" her, all of a sudden, he called her without prior being friends? And cheated on his girlfriend?
    I find this entire story to be a bit sketchy. I mean come on, all that because of a pair of boobs?!
    I believe she met random dude on internet, had some kind of interest because why else would you flash them at 15, for the hell of it? Well hell no.
    He knew it was going to happen, took screenshot, had his leverage of getting more, didn't get more, did his business, ruined her life forever.
    People at her school/s must of seen these pictures, spread around like a wildfire, her life ruined even more.
    Couldn't handle it because everywhere she went she was haunted by the mistake she made. Gave up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naidia View Post
    I believe she met random dude on internet, had some kind of interest because why else would you flash them at 15, for the hell of it? Well hell no.
    He knew it was going to happen, took screenshot, had his leverage of getting more, didn't get more, did his business, ruined her life forever.
    People at her school/s must of seen these pictures, spread around like a wildfire, her life ruined even more.
    Couldn't handle it because everywhere she went she was haunted by the mistake she made. Gave up.
    Ok, now tell me, is that normal in the USA or Canada or whatever?

    Because over here, in Croatia, if you flashed your boobs, you'd be getting a high five....

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    If this is true , the guy that did all that should pay . If a guy would try do something like that to my niece(in the future) I think I would rip his head off .

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    Quote Originally Posted by vep View Post
    Ok, now tell me, is that normal in the USA or Canada or whatever?

    Because over here, in Croatia, if you flashed your boobs, you'd be getting a high five....
    I think girls would bully you and call you a slut, not sure about guys though, they'd probably hit on you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Nothing we can do about it, bullying is just human nature.
    Not only human nature, also monkeys do this. Monkeys do it mostly to teach another monkey a lesson but it's teasing/bullying nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The EagleOwl Mage View Post



    So death is a consequence of this mistake?

    Well if you got that from my sentence then I must of said something like "You send pictures on the internet, you die". That is clearly not even close to what I was saying. I was saying if you flash something people like to see and you don't even know this person, have not seen their face, don't have a number, anything to do with them at all, just a screen name or some shit. Really think about what you're doing and what it could lead to, especially when you're still in school. The consequences would be.
    • Grats you're now part of the billions of other people with some kind of naked picture on the internet that's never, ever going away.
    • Well now that you're on the internet, naked, lets wonder who could see this.
    • Pretty much everyone in the world with an internet connection. With the phones kids have these days, that's pretty much everyone.
    • All of that can happen before you even wake up for the next day of school. Shirt storm happens and you've just ruined your own life.
    • If you give them nothing to show of you, they have nothing to bully you with, just their own opinions of you, and someone else's opinions should never hurt you. Keyword should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vep View Post
    Ok, now tell me, is that normal in the USA or Canada or whatever?

    Because over here, in Croatia, if you flashed your boobs, you'd be getting a high five....
    It's pretty normal. Spawned all new common terms like cyber-bullying. I just don't understand it, if it's a strange and someone they've never met, what gives them the (I need a verb, courage?) to just give them that, something, that just backfires and destroys their normal life.
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    Thing is, my little sister got teased at school to. When some of her classmates saw me makes signs like snapping my fingers and pointing like "i see you" it kind of stopped. She moved schools already cause it was a crapschool though. At the new school she doesn't get teased (diffrent atmosphere and higher educated kids and kids from WAY better families).
    I think teasing is a combination of how the bully his life is at home (they tend to be beated or teased at home) and how "cool" the other kids think it is and the educational background of their family.
    If their family is composed of drunk and kidbeating rednecks, that's a recipe for a serial killer alone, but you tend to be more of a bully.
    I guess jealousy has a HUGE factor to play to in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naidia View Post
    It's pretty normal. Spawned all new common terms like cyber-bullying. I just don't understand it, if it's a strange and someone they've never met, what gives them the (I need a verb, courage?) to just give them that, something, that just backfires and destroys their normal life.
    It's normal? If it really is, that's pathetic. Why would anyone care about a girl showing her boobs? I mean come on, bro, take a look at suicide girls, every single girl out there has at the very minimum one naked photo. Are their lives ruined? No, in fact, people adore them!
    I find it extremely hard to believe it's just because of the reasons she stated. I mean seriously, it's a pair of freaking boobs... That leads me to believe that there had to be more severe problems that we are not aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vep View Post
    It's normal? If it really is, that's pathetic. Why would anyone care about a girl showing her boobs? I mean come on, bro, take a look at suicide girls, every single girl out there has at the very minimum one naked photo. Are their lives ruined? No, in fact, people adore them!
    I find it extremely hard to believe it's just because of the reasons she stated. I mean seriously, it's a pair of freaking boobs... That leads me to believe that there had to be more severe problems that we are not aware of.
    Well, The Suicide Girls are not so innocent, they can be classified as porn stars pretty much, so of course their lives would not be ruined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    How would you end bullying once and for all? Lets hear this master plan.
    Charge fines to the parents of said bully, increasing in increments. Eventually the parents will have to snap and do their damn job. While minors are immune to the law in most cases, this should change. School should not be a place of insecurity. Developing a social "rank" in a high school is an inevitability, but it should never escalate beyond a certain point like it seems to above.

    Children stop going to parents once they realize nothing changes and they just get picked on for telling mommy. Once that is ingrained into your very being, you start to just stop saying anything to anyone.

    It's normal? If it really is, that's pathetic. Why would anyone care about a girl showing her boobs? I mean come on, bro, take a look at suicide girls, every single girl out there has at the very minimum one naked photo. Are their lives ruined? No, in fact, people adore them!
    I find it extremely hard to believe it's just because of the reasons she stated. I mean seriously, it's a pair of freaking boobs... That leads me to believe that there had to be more severe problems that we are not aware of.
    When you're 13 years old and are showing your boobs, and your 13 year old peers find out about it, you're going to be a slut for life. I mean it's all fun and games when you're 20+, but at 13?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naidia View Post
    Well, The Suicide Girls are not so innocent, they can be classified as porn stars pretty much, so of course their lives would not be ruined.
    It doesn't matter whether or not they are innocent, what matters is that they have dozens of naked pictures and no one cares. Anyway, it was just an example. Another example is from my high school. We had this one girl who got drunk and she gave a guy a blow job in front of a very popular bar. Next day there was some teasing in the forms of "yo, where's your boyfriend" but no one hated her for that or resented her too much.
    It's just stupid, the reasons in the case of this girl are retarded and don't make much sense, that's the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zafire View Post
    When you're 13 years old and are showing your boobs, and your 13 year old peers find out about it, you're going to be a slut for life. I mean it's all fun and games when you're 20+, but at 13?
    Yeah, ok showing your boobs shouldn't automatically make someone a slut. There are other things that make a slut. But yes, I can understand your point. However that still shouldn't make her drink bleach and shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zafire View Post
    Charge fines to the parents of said bully, increasing in increments. Eventually the parents will have to snap and do their damn job. While minors are immune to the law in most cases, this should change. School should not be a place of insecurity. Developing a social "rank" in a high school is an inevitability, but it should never escalate beyond a certain point like it seems to above.
    "Hello, this is the police, you are hereby fined the amount of ( $$) on the charges that your son has bullied someone so bad that it caused this person to commit sucide, good day ma'am and sir". That really wouldn't blow over well. Since the very well known theory of what makes a bully are parents that don't give a shit about them, why would they care about someone elses life, and how would that make them snap into shape and thus snapping their child into shape. It's not stopping it if it's already happened. They have to "change" their child before they become a bully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Well I see you get an A+ grade for empathy. Try being depressed and suicidal and tell me how stupid it is then.
    I'm depressed and somewhat suicidal and I still think she's an idiot.

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