Time...line? Time isn't made out of lines. It is made out of circles. That is why clocks are round. ~ Caboose
Good job showing how clueless you are. Maybe you should learn how the class functions if you want to counter it, rather than moan about the class in general.
I won't bother to comment on every individual thing you listed but I can already tell you're some 1500 scrub who just can't manage and it looking to lash out at others because you can't even play your class properly.
Awwww come on i just gave my opinions
If you "dont get it" then for me the next solution is, if im interested, to ask what he/she means. If you think trolling is the right answer, then idk. On the other hand, the things i listed are in some ways very very obvious that something is off. And i never talked about the strength of certain abilities, only about changes AND nerfs. The people in this thread filling their own selfish ideas in my thoughts, thats simply not my problem
Last edited by mmoca2cf51ea43; 2012-10-27 at 06:11 PM.
No it's not like like saying warriors are OP. It was just a list of broken mechanics - as to why they're broken, anyone who PVPs (and isn't blinded by a belief that their OP class is balanced) knows why they're broken. The correct response to any ambiguity should be "what do you mean?" instead of automatically assuming that the poster is saying something that flies in the face of reason (and then calling them a 1500 scrub who can't play their class properly).
*EDIT* oops beaten to it...
Stormscale Horde EU | http://lastrogue.com
MMMmmmkay, here we GO!
psyfiend:
Yes, nerf was justified, even some 6times(or more ?) gladiator says this, but the initially fear is hardly avoidable. IDK how i would change that
a)instant
b)range
c)almost no cost
d) but the real problem is "How can a spriest function in an environment where melee's can stick forever to their targets, regarding the cc department". On top of that, a good team can delay a normal priest fear by quite some time, they would fall simply behind in the cc department if we just discard the ability.
something needs to be done
shadoworbs:
look at my posts with theed
frostbomb:
well, we agree, but its waaay more complicated than that, if you dont know why, then i wont talk about, the dmg modell of mages need changes, right now, with frostbomb, the dmg can POTENTIALLY insane, but w/o its laughable which means, if we nerf the ability, mages will be replaced by other dps-monsters
coldsnap:
doesnt reset the cd of cone of cold and the cd of DF (dont get me wrong, in the actuall environment, that would be OP, but right now its only used for Iceblock, which hardly promotes thinking)
symbiosis:
look at my other posts
disc priests:
choices of glyphs are completely off, healing is to low, almost free kill for any good dps, needs way more coordination from teammates, loss of certain abilities, if you dont know them, i wont talk about, to much stuff
generation of holy power:
look at my other posts
generating of FoF proccs:
dmg modell for mages need changes
second wind:
strong ability w/o downsides AND thought (you should know what i mean ...)
resto shamman mastery:
to strong in certain situations and to weak in other, lackluster is the right word
blood fear:
strong ability with only little downsides, promotes poor play, punishs "good" play
howling blast:
look at my posts
obliterate:
look at my posts
monks:
seems weak and an "?" dont know them :P
life swap for spriest:
could be argueably balanced, but dunno, seems very strong with the other CDs
displacer beast:
look at my posts
shockwave:
well, idk, its blatantly obvious
warrior fear:
on top of, well, everything
application of affli dots:
with cds up, you can debuff a whole team in 4 globals, that cant be balanced
kiting for kite classes:
should be aswell, very obvious
Edit: the very very very short version :P
---------- Post added 2012-10-27 at 06:23 PM ----------
Then maybe your wrong in here
---------- Post added 2012-10-27 at 06:26 PM ----------
But thats the problem, you cant just list the stuff mentioned. Especially about the Mage stuff, their whole dmg AND kite systems needs an revamp
Last edited by mmoca2cf51ea43; 2012-10-27 at 07:41 PM.
it doesnt work that way "my spell X got nerfed, nerf Y spell for Z class"
You said kiting classes have a problem(or a nerf?) But you never specified mages in that. Is it just mages? How about moonkins? They now can kite very well. I think kiting is somewhat balanced, melee have many ways to get to casters and caster have many ways to get away from melee.
Also please change your format to your post there, it makes me want to tear my eyes out.
Time...line? Time isn't made out of lines. It is made out of circles. That is why clocks are round. ~ Caboose
People still going on about shitty blood fear?
The sheer stupidity in this thread is overwhelming. The OP is quite clearly asking for even more warrior nerfs and everyone is jumping down his throat about nerfing other classes' abilities too.
The fact of the matter is his list is still too short. While nerfing shockwave alone would pretty much be exactly what needs to happen to warriors every other class has something or another that IS broken OP be it their burst, healing or control.
Originally Posted by High Overlord Saurfangi7-6700 @2.8GHz | Nvidia GTX 960M | 16GB DDR4-2400MHz | 1 TB Toshiba SSD| Dell XPS 15
I know for a fact, that kiting is almost non-existent, for every class/spec. Rets/Ferals/Warrior/dks and to some extent Enhance shammans can indefinitely stick to their targets with little to no downsides (the only real problem is position, but thats hardly a problem with the current system of range abilities).
To be precisely:
Kiting IS possible, but only a couple of seconds, and the downsides of it, are HUGE, so huge that you would need to blow cds to stay on top against 2 melee's. Seconds later, you dont have the cds to counter/peel/dmg your enemy, which brings us to a HIDDEN
tremendous PROBLEM of PvP. If you dont know it, dont ask. The next problem with kiting is following, it should be avoidable, have downsides to it but also great benefits! But the next problem is burst with giant cds up, with this modell you only need couple of seconds to blow someone up, its cheap, boring and unrewarding.
How do i change my format ? :P (WOHO, so EASY to actually ASK some stranger >.<)
---------- Post added 2012-10-27 at 07:03 PM ----------
Look at my describing posts damnit!
---------- Post added 2012-10-27 at 07:09 PM ----------
Exactly, the list is still to short, i dont even mentioned off healing from hybrids and several other GLARING problems.
Last edited by mmoca2cf51ea43; 2012-10-27 at 06:18 PM.