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[Nab]

Don't judge a person by how he acts on youtube comments.

[inux94]

Why not? He's resorting to personal attacks.

He called me a console faggot because I posted a bug in MW3.

[Cyanotical]

Don't judge a person by how he acts on youtube comments.

that's a perfect place to judge, you will never get a more clear picture of someone than when you witness how they behave when they wont have any repercussions for their behavior

[noteworthynerd]

Legitimate constructive criticism is raised of something he did (wasn't it that "ultimate gaming rig" with dual Xeons?) and he replies to multiple, independent people with posts like that. You just can't do that, that is totally unprofessional and would be enough to get you fired in any job where you have to deal with the public.

Yep, that's the video. He had duel Xeons and a 1200w PSU in what he was calling the "ultimate gaming rig", so I posted something along the lines of: "A 1200w PSU is completely unnecessary and TTL's findings show that, when it comes to gaming, dual Xeons don't perform well enough to justify the cost." He responded decently at first, basically justifying his choices. It wasn't until I said something like "I just think it's silly to call this an ultimate gaming rig when you can build a PC much cheaper than this that will perform just as well." That's when he posted the following on my channel: http://i.imgur.com/GzlY2.png

I don't have the exact comments I posted, I was just paraphrasing above, but I can assure you I said nothing that deserved that kind of response.

Either way, like llDemonll said, we've got one side of a story and it's from the guy who got fired. I find it hard to believe that a legitimate company like ChannelPro has done anything illegal.

[Sackman]

Yep, that's the video. He had duel Xeons and a 1200w PSU in what he was calling the "ultimate gaming rig", so I posted something along the lines of: "A 1200w PSU is completely unnecessary and TTL's findings show that, when it comes to gaming, dual Xeons don't perform well enough to justify the cost." He responded decently at first, basically justifying his choices. It wasn't until I said something like "I just think it's silly to call this an ultimate gaming rig when you can build a PC much cheaper than this that will perform just as well." That's when he posted the following on my channel: http://i.imgur.com/GzlY2.png

I don't have the exact comments I posted, I was just paraphrasing above, but I can assure you I said nothing that deserved that kind of response.

Either way, like llDemonll said, we've got one side of a story and it's from the guy who got fired. I find it hard to believe that a legitimate company like ChannelPro has done anything illegal.

Lol if that's the case I don't know why any of you were watching his channels, who seriously uses server processors for "ultimate" gaming?

That's like buying a quadro fx for gaming.

I have only just heard about his "20 year" website now, and have been following computers for quite some time, including using many of these types of websites. So it's a sad day for him, but not a sore loss for the interwebs.

[Nab]

Yep, that's the video. He had duel Xeons and a 1200w PSU in what he was calling the "ultimate gaming rig", so I posted something along the lines of: "A 1200w PSU is completely unnecessary and TTL's findings show that, when it comes to gaming, dual Xeons don't perform well enough to justify the cost." He responded decently at first, basically justifying his choices. It wasn't until I said something like "I just think it's silly to call this an ultimate gaming rig when you can build a PC much cheaper than this that will perform just as well." That's when he posted the following on my channel: http://i.imgur.com/GzlY2.png

I don't have the exact comments I posted, I was just paraphrasing above, but I can assure you I said nothing that deserved that kind of response.

Either way, like llDemonll said, we've got one side of a story and it's from the guy who got fired. I find it hard to believe that a legitimate company like ChannelPro has done anything illegal.

Wow, did he really go to your channel and flame you?... When was that?

[Deleted]

Lol if that's the case I don't know why any of you were watching his channels, who seriously uses server processors for "ultimate" gaming?

Elric has always been a bit 'over the top' and exaggerating. I think the extreme gaming PC video/build he did was simply a publicity stunt. I do find it general bad manners to showcase hardware that no realistic consumer will ever need. He could have just as easily swapped it for a 2500k or 2600k (which I believe where the current generation CPUs at the time) and explained why a higher end CPU would've been wasted.

I personally find it more impressive when people build impressive gaming rigs that perform excellent on a budget. Something like cramming a 7870 and a 3570k into a build under $650. Having a huge pile of money and throwing it at a random computer store basically buying the most expensive components has never been my cup of tea.

As for this whole... chain of events. I too doubt that a company like ChannelPro would fire Elric without proper reasons.

[Drunkenvalley]

Well, going by what he says, the guys at Channel Pro were assholes who were actively fucking him over. 3 years to develop the website, and clearly nothing's happened. Cutting Elric's network. Stealing money.

And while I do not take Elric's message at face value, I do have to admit I have no relation to Channel Pro. To me the only source of them being anything "Pro" is their name, and I detest anyone by default if they choose to name themselves that sort of stupid shit.

[inux94]

Wow, did he really go to your channel and flame you?... When was that?

If you read the first page you would've seen it.

[Nab]

If you read the first page you would've seen it.

Yes, I already noticed the date.

[Deleted]

hmm this topic is quite interesting.

[Deleted]

that's a perfect place to judge, you will never get a more clear picture of someone than when you witness how they behave when they wont have any repercussions for their behavior

You did not just say you can judge someone's behavior over the internet...

EVERY SINGLE PERSON will act tougher over the internet, there's next to no social pressure to not act that way.

I've learned to not even care about what people think about me on the internet. I've been insulted many times and I've insulted people many times. I'm quite sure that the people with whom I've disagreed on the internet could actually be good friends of me IRL.

The internet is a hate machine, deal with it or get off it.

[Cyanotical]

The internet is a hate machine, deal with it or get off it.

it never used to be

[Milkshake86]

Elric has always been a bit 'over the top' and exaggerating. I think the extreme gaming PC video/build he did was simply a publicity stunt. I do find it general bad manners to showcase hardware that no realistic consumer will ever need. He could have just as easily swapped it for a 2500k or 2600k (which I believe where the current generation CPUs at the time) and explained why a higher end CPU would've been wasted.

I personally find it more impressive when people build impressive gaming rigs that perform excellent on a budget. Something like cramming a 7870 and a 3570k into a build under $650. Having a huge pile of money and throwing it at a random computer store basically buying the most expensive components has never been my cup of tea.

As for this whole... chain of events. I too doubt that a company like ChannelPro would fire Elric without proper reasons.

If you swap out from the best of the best it is not "Ultimate" budget, family friendly, and normal consumer all go w/ Wal-Mart not the Ultimate Gaming machine. So in reality every single "ultimate" gaming machine is featuring server CPU's which is unrealistic but so is the concept.

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it never used to be

O.o that is because we all used to share our porn "Jpegs", now we can just find the streams outside of IRC.

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Well, going by what he says, the guys at Channel Pro were assholes who were actively fucking him over. 3 years to develop the website, and clearly nothing's happened. Cutting Elric's network. Stealing money.

And while I do not take Elric's message at face value, I do have to admit I have no relation to Channel Pro. To me the only source of them being anything "Pro" is their name, and I detest anyone by default if they choose to name themselves that sort of stupid shit.

Except PRO is just a quick of abbreviation of professional. It technically does not take much to be qualified as a professional. Unfortunately the sounds of it there is no way the said company or foundation w/e have you is acting professionally, even w/ half the story missing as an entirety it is clearly not professionalism we are seeing from either side. However if he is telling the truth then he is dealing w/ criminals and such should act accordingly. I'd also mention 99% of the time these youtube channels are ran by outside sources not the friendly face you see talking.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

If you swap out from the best of the best it is not "Ultimate" budget, family friendly, and normal consumer all go w/ Wal-Mart not the Ultimate Gaming machine. So in reality every single "ultimate" gaming machine is featuring server CPU's which is unrealistic but so is the concept.

When you can get the same (or to be more accurate - better) performance for 4000 dollars less it loses the epithet "ultimate gaming machine" and gains the "for people that don't know better and just want to throw ten grand at a computer hardware store" label. Those Xeon processors cost nearly two grand each, and the motherboards aren't cheap either.

Regardless, it is not acceptable for a public face to go to somebody that only raised legitimate concerns with something and say things like that to them.

[Milkshake86]

When you can get the same (or to be more accurate - better) performance for 4000 dollars less it loses the epithet "ultimate gaming machine" and gains the "for people that don't know better and just want to throw ten grand at a computer hardware store" label. Those Xeon processors cost nearly two grand each, and the motherboards aren't cheap either.

Regardless, it is not acceptable for a public face to go to somebody that only raised legitimate concerns with something and say things like that to them.

See a lot of people miss a lot of things when they see a server CPU when in actuality the CPU can do a bit more than simple gaming benchs show, do not forget that benchs are done on fresh windows installed machines w/ nothing else but the benchmark running so those #'s are not realistic, it could be said the tech on a server cpu can handle some functions a bit better, and then we have the dual CPU boards and etc but no I get your meaning still this is the real world in the real world, a dodge viper is 90k~ USD and is a terror to be contested in the same fashion the next vehicle capable of competing against it is near 210k USD, not even the 90-180k Euro supercars are on the level, still if you want fast and sexy would you be wrong to buy a ferrari? If we went by clear and common sense everything would be identical w/ no variation.

[noteworthynerd]

do not forget that benchs are done on fresh windows installed machines w/ nothing else but the benchmark running so those #'s are not realistic

Maybe professional benchmarking sites like Anandtech, but the review I'm speaking of was done by TTL on a normal, everyday computer and it still showed that the increased performance from the dual Xeons did not justify the cost.

And realistically, how could they? Like Butler said, a single Xeon E5-2690 costs ~$2000, so two of them would cost ~$4000. That is a 1333% percent price increase over the 3770K, do they perform 1333% better? Absolutely not.

[Milkshake86]

Maybe professional benchmarking sites like Anandtech, but the review I'm speaking of was done by TTL on a normal, everyday computer and it still showed that the increased performance from the dual Xeons did not justify the cost.

And realistically, how could they? Like Butler said, a single Xeon E5-2690 costs ~$2000, so two of them would cost ~$4000. That is a 1333% percent price increase over the 3770K, do they perform 1333% better? Absolutely not.

This is true but again were not talking about any type of budget nor are we saying Dollar for Dollar performance. The McLaren F1 is a $970,000~ super car, it is not 880% faster than a dodge viper. Increase the speed by 25% add 880% to the price tag. O.o the best is going to run you more even if its only better by 1 pt. Then again this is what seperates #1 from #2. If you argue $ value when its tagged "ultimate" you would honestly come off as a tool, it is not constructive criticism but economic criticism, not saying out right insulting someone is the ideal or even proper way to respond but is totally dickish to say hey thats nice but mines cheaper and better, no matter how you word it you come off as a tool and upperbrow when someone put together what is the absolute clear winner, even if its a single miniscule point.

[Deleted]

about the xeons , would a true octo-core actually yield a better performance in games compared to a similar clocked quad-core?

[Deleted]

It took him 20 years to figure out what was going on? Silly man