I'd also like to add some food for thought...
We have millionaire celebrities, that tell us who we should vote for, lambaste the opposition, yet provide nothing to society.
We have millionaire musicians, that sing about how fucked up one side is over the other, yet provide nothing to society.
We have millionaire athletes, who we call role models, talk all day about, root for their teams, yet they provide nothing to society.
In fact we look up to all these people and damn near deify them in their own right. We want to look like them, dress like them, throw a ball like them, yet they really do not contribute to society.
Yet here we have people...who give people jobs....JOBS...and you are going to speak of them like they are the worst people in the world.
Misconstruing the purpose of obamacare as well as the economic reasons behind it (when the numbers work out, the cost isn't nearly as high as the GOP cries about since it saves money in a number of areas), as well as the reasons behind it
I could be wrong, but while parts of Obamacare have been implemented, it has not been put in in its entirety yet.
Businesses always have to adjust costs. Its just how things work, and ultimately if a business cannot adapt to a new business setting it will die out. Papa Johns drastically overreacted and made a public spectacle hyperbolizing the cost to his company, especially given that his competition would be facing increased costs as well. It was, therefore, not a rational adaptation but a serious blunder that has already begun to hurt his company.
No one is saying that when met with increased costs measures must be taken into account to balance the new costs out. The objection is that the costs are being passed entirely onto the workers when the cost is not as high as the CEO estimated, and there is a massive surplus for upper management that doesn't justify passing it onto the workers even if he were not to raise the price of his pizzas by a minute amount.
Its funny how things change when you actually apply logic and reason to a situation rather than looking at it in terms of black or white.
So should the cost be entirely passed onto the pizzas? It sounded like Papa Johns was doing a split between the pizzas and the workers.
If it was entirely passed onto the business, the price increase would be much larger. Surely lowering demand.
And that isn't what anyone wants.
Or are you suggesting the company should just eat the profit loss?
Last edited by Riidii; 2012-11-16 at 08:00 PM.
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This is something you will see across the board due to obamacare, nearly every nonmanagement fulltime hourly position is going to be eliminated soon.
This is due to the requirement that no more than 20% of a paycheck can be healthcare costs, but to meet the bare minimum on required by obamacare that business have to provide, am hourly employee making around 8-9 dollars an hour would have to work 48-50+ hours to meet the minimum payment.
I'm upper management at a gas station/convience store chain of about 60 stores, we had to basically elimate all our full time cashier positions, we haven't hired anyone for a nonmanagement position in over a year because our business that has been around over 50 years would be bankrupt in months if we didn't. Many small businesses don't make enough to handle paying our employees the wages required to pay for obamacare
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oh yea right blame obama. try blaming the ceo's themselves along with all the other rich greedy vp's, politicians and whatnot who live in million dollar homes and drive 200k cars for screwing up the economy. ur shady crooked ways screw over the tax payers. without the workin man this country crashes. too bad these selfish richies cant figure that out. make sure the middle class has what they need 1st then worry about ur toys.
So how do we solve all this? The employees already work full time and still can't afford health insurance. So what should they do? Should they go to the emergency room and let the tax payers foot the bill? Or should they just simply die?
I've been busy with other things... so I"m playing catch up... and yes, I do respond to folks that ask me questions... just like I responded to yours.
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As explained above, I'm playing catch up... love your new avatar... I have about a foot of global warming on my drive, wanna come take care of it for me?
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