No not really. That's not how the cata system worked even during DS. I never had 403 gear or BiS gear which isn't the same thing. I was also never fully raid geared within hours of hitting cap. The people who unsubbed and bitched about nothing to do were bitching by and large that it took them 9 months to release a new content patch at the end of the game.
And i thought a pc or tv game was something we were doing for fun ^^ and for to have fun with other players all around the world. On a TV and PC you have a button, did you know you could turn off with that ^^
I agree with Bayhas, the vanilla time, when you saw one person with a tabbard, you knowed that guy was exalted with an faction, it was huge on that time, a really hardworking guy =) tabbards today has almost the same value today, not rep tabbards anymore
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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That's just posers
REAL hardcores take the crappy dungeon blues and, because they don't want to wait, go raiding. Plus, they outperferm the posers in their shiny welfare epics in every way possible. And THEN they don't even brag about it. Instead, they MAY give you a look that just says "Questions?".
Having my 3rd 90, and switching mains, I can say with confidence that the -only- thing tempting me to go back to dailies before the rep booster are the coins.
And, to be even more frank, I've only gotten loot from coins on said main once out of about 10 coins spent. If I spent ~8 hours of dailies/week stockpiling those coins, that's a pretty low daily/bonus loot ratio.
You do not need to do dailies for LFR and dungeons. But I think you're just trolling at this point as you seem to have no actual point. You dont like dungeons because they dont offer enough rewards, you dont want to upgrade gear because it wont be as good as the best gear in the game and you dont want to raid because its subject to RNG. None of that has changed really from previous expansions, the only difference I can see is the color of the gear you can get with non-reputation points. That sounds to me like you dont want to play, so go outside and take a walk, its a nice day someplace I'm sure.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning.
-Kujako-
Now go back and read the developers post on valor gear. Under their own design VALOR WILL NOT BE AS REWARDING because they consider that it was to rewarding in the past. It's not me you're arguing with. I know how the system works. Your arguing with the Blizzard developers.
i will repeat what i have said before.
BLIZZARD I HAVE COMPLETED ALL THE RAIDS AND THUS HAVE GOTTEN ALL THE GEAR AVAILABLE TO ME WITHIN THIS PATCH IT IS FAIL THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE MORE RAIDS FOR ME TO RAID ALREADY IN PLACE I SHOULD HAVE GEAR 24/7 FAIL BLIZZARD FAIL - said no raider ever
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
FC: 3437-3046-3552
See I know I have a pretty good argument when people are forced to reduce me to trolling. I don't need dailies for dungeons and lfr but so what? I'm done with dungeons and the gear they provide like a month or so ago. I do lfr and sha weekly and get nothing out of them and I see the path available to me is.. dailies. The game simple isn't as rewarding and it's by design not to be because if it was then they couldn't keep up.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning.
-Kujako-
Oh yeah, this their new "intention" feels so rewarding. Kill boss, DE/offpsec loot, sometimes there are MS drops for people, sometimes in blue moon there are 6 rolls for that 0.00000000000001% chance to drop trinket or weapon, which finally managed to drop. System which was criticized in vanilla, was slightly improved in TBC and WotLK, now is back to it's pure lottery form.
But Tony, there is no sense to try and help situation. It looks like also we have a lot of Blizzard promo agents on this forum who try to defend such awkward design decisions. Let those peacemakers do their job and let Blizzard suffer all the consequences for trying to make game more "rewarding" aka introducing pure f2p-quality grind but without option to donate to avoid it, and that's on top of p2p model. You want game to be better, I want it too, but 5.1 shows no improvements, so it's better stop rewarding bad design decisions (and feeding GC with his team) from our wallets.
Last edited by Ferocity; 2012-11-16 at 06:03 PM.
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
FC: 3437-3046-3552
The valor point cap presents more of a gate than the reputation really. The reputation is just an annoyance but if you never touch dailies and don't like dailies then it's becomes an iron gate. Dungeons are not rewarding enough as is. I was finished with them after the first week. I don't see why you think valor needs more of a gate then daily quests, in fact most of your assertions aren't really founded in anything. Why does it need another gate? Why can't dungeons be more rewarding? why do daily quest have to quadruple dip?
Illlll just stick to my own solution... Do 1 repu at a time. I dont even get enough VP per week to buy all the stuff avaible thro the factions I have already. (Klaxxi/GL revered, Shado-Pan honored)
I was Once a Nab
Then I rolled a Paladin
Thats when I found out
that I REALLY was a Nab