Playing since 2007.
Making one, does not mean you can make the other. The 110 was way bigger than the 104 (iircc). The problem was more likely that they could make them, but the fall out of broken chips was just to big. Making it to costly.
Bottem line, manufacturing issues were the reason they didnt make/sell it. Or that is what i think what happened.
iirc GK 110 wasn't released as gtx 680 because it was deemed to powerfull for the market. (so they made used it in new quadro series i believe)
and by powerfull also comes cost,production etc (it just likely wouldn't be worthwhile from a marketing perspective)
but as gamers/enthusiasts alike i think it would have been; "moar power gimme!"
Could be something of both.
Manufacturing issues, so less chips to sell. Consumers are used to a 500-600 dollar/euro max on high end GPU's (Or there about for single ones). So to get out of the costs they might have sold it for way more than that.
They found out it would be way to powerfull to compete with AMD (or something like that). Combine that with the high cost of making it. And making it a quadro only card is not that far fetched. That side of market makes up way more of their profit anyway. The consumer market for these cards is way smaller
But this is all speculation on my side of course :P
Honestly, I think that's pretty much just marketing bullshit to sound better than their competitor. Coming from a company that were willing to appear at a presentation of one of their 400-series graphics cards with a fake card makes me inclined they're willing to bullshit as they please.
probably kepler refresh
This would seem like the most obvious strategy to me - they have their 7xx line already in their back pockets. It could've been the 6xx line, but they've kept their cards firmly held to their chest. The 7970 isn't a concern for 95% of the gaming audience. People with multiple displays or x1600 desires will have bought it, but even it stumbles in places at those resolutions and in those setups.
If those GK 110's are essentially the 7xx series, they'll probably just fine tune it and resolve any issues with mass producing it in the next 6 months, then fire it out all over the place. Again I'd basically expect it to be aimed at making x1080 doable on any game at 120fps, with max settings, AA topped out, etc and they'll also push for x1440/1600 being playable at 60fps constant, with a single card, with maxed out settings, which at the moment (for most games) requires an SLI setup. No doubt it'll be able to run 5760x1080 solo, though at less than 60fps constant. I'd suggest they'll aim to make tri-monitor setups a standard using 2 card SLI along with paired monitors at x1440/1600. Which is again where I'd expect a 790 to be aimed.
To be more clear, I don't disagree the GK110 may have been very powerful. However, I'm inclined to disagree that their reason to not release the GK110 was simply because of that.
Whether it be heat-issues, voltage issues or the likes, I would be more inclined to believe that the GK110 was simply not ready to be released on the market to begin with, hence the GK104 being released as the full line-up.
true likely not the sole reason for it. (still a gaming gpu single chip going for a few grand would not be an efficient market)
im likely skipping the 7xx unless their price gets really interesting or my current 670 isn't keeping up with games. (which i doubt for a while for now ^^)
Heres hoping that big kepler is worth an upgrade from the 680 lightnings. Performance and feature wise.
At this point im starting to lean towards the 89xx series from amd or if next gen isnt worth it ill just wait for 99xx or the 880.
Last edited by EllishaPally; 2012-11-21 at 07:46 PM.
Should give the Ti an SLI twin. Bypass the 6xx family wholesale.