Should circumcision be the person's OWN choice?

[Fahrenheit]

Foreign girls love American guys, id put money on the fact that their dicks dont wear turtle necks being one of the reasons for that.

HA! That's the quote of the day for me on MMOChamp. One of the rare cases I legit laughed out loud at.

[Gamdwelf]

I'm from the US and it is mutilation.

[Deleted]

wow that's a lot of assumptions

Idk about the foreign girls loving american guys part. But i do think he's right when he said your parents can make decisions for you untill you can for yourself.

[Deleted]

If you consider the amount of people who are unhygienic - a circumcision can prevent malicious bacteria growing at that part.
One of my friends who cba to wash correctly - he just showers every now and then -a bacteria infected his pee hole.
It doesn't hurt much when it is done when you are younger, when you are older, you can get sick as shit.
And for those who think your penis stops growing after circumcision at a young age...no.

Now I had to be circumcised for the sole reason I tend to travel a lot (i can have some weeks without proper shower etc), an infection at that area is the last thing I want. I underwent the surgery on advice of the doctor after a full health check up. And my love life improved since then but i don't think it has a correlation with it. But, Many girls 'I met' prefer circumcised guys. iykwim

I would give children who reached min 12 years, to decide over it. any younger is not plausible.

[A Day to Remember]

wow that's a lot of assumptions

Well technically its one assumption, but one im willing to stand behind completely, being turtleneck free. The other is a fact, your parents have the legal right to make every decision for you that they see fit.

[pateuvasiliu]

Ignoring the religions aspect and masturbation, it's actually healthy to be circumcized because there's some unhealthy bacteria that usually gather in that area. When a person is circumcized, said bacterias evolve much, much harder.

Also, it's not like it stops masturbation, it just makes it harder.


We were born with quite a few stuff that aren't so useful to modern humans to be honest.

http://www.bloggingwv.com/20-useless...-we-need-them/

The wisdom teeth are one of the issues with which many of has had to deal with for example.

Get the hell out. My father and his father before me were never mutilated by these religious fanatics and they're very much alive and healthy. You're all being lied to, smartasses. How can ALTERING YOUR PERFECT BODY make it HEALTHIER? WHEN HAS THIS -EVER- happened?

The other is a fact, your parents have the legal right to make every decision for you that they see fit.

explain to me how slapping your kid is frowned upon and even illegal but putting a scalpel near his genitals and taking a life changing decision for him is not.

Are you aware that the glans/foreskin is the most sensitive part of the penis? You're destroying a shit load of nerves in the name of Allah.

But if we hear of Female Circumcision all shit flips out. Double fucking standards.

[Spoiler]

Noticing a pattern here. US users defending it, European Users against it / pointing out it's an oddity. One word really, culture.

This. Don't you uncircumcised people find it somewhat odd that all the circumcised people support the practice? The majority of men I know were circumcised when they were infants, and in fact, in the US, it's quite rare to find a boy who is not circumcised. We are all doing just fine, and for the most part support the practice. The question I would pose to you is shouldn't we, the circumcised, have more say about the practice than most of you who have no clue what it is to be circumcised?

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

False. The gall bladder concentrates bile and aids in the digestion of lipids. The appendix acts as a reservoir for endemic gut flora from which normal populations are established following severe intestinal disease. The foreskin has a function, as the glans is naturally a semi-internal organ much like the eyeball or gum. Lastly, if female circumcision = mutilation, then why not male?

It's barbaric and outdated, and it's only defenses are based in superstition, religious baggage, and false information.

Because female circumcision isn't anywhere in a comparable realm and for you to ask that question makes me question your credibility.

Also, there are reasons for circumcision. Unless you want to call reputable medical institutions unreliable.

Get the hell out. My father and his father before me were never mutilated by these religious fanatics and they're very much alive and healthy. You're all being lied to, smartasses. How can ALTERING YOUR PERFECT BODY make it HEALTHIER? WHEN HAS THIS -EVER- happened?

Are you actually serious?

[Deleted]

Always has if your child was a female, see all the furor around the world a while back over african genital mutilations. Why the double standard?

To play devils advocate, FGM is far, far, far worse.

Unless you want to call reputable medical institutions unreliable.

To also plays devils advocate on the opposite side, it's certainly not beyond health professionals to produce biased results to suit their needs, whether they be monetary or cultural. I'm fairly certain the pharmaceutical industry is known for doing so.

[zorkuus]

But i do think he's right when he said your parents can make decisions for you untill you can for yourself.

They can and they can't, that's the whole issue here, isn't it? it depends on the subject and country.

your parents have the legal right to make every decision for you that they see fit.

No, only the decisions that are allowed by law, and this varies from country to country. In some countries female circumcision is legal, in others it's not.

[Urti]

If you consider the amount of people who are unhygienic - a circumcision can prevent malicious bacteria growing at that part.
One of my friends who cba to wash correctly - he just showers every now and then -a bacteria infected his pee hole.
It doesn't hurt much when it is done when you are younger, when you are older, you can get sick as shit.
And for those who think your penis stops growing after circumcision at a young age...no.

Now I had to be circumcised for the sole reason I tend to travel a lot (i can have some weeks without proper shower etc), an infection at that area is the last thing I want. I underwent the surgery on advice of the doctor after a full health check up. And my love life improved since then but i don't think it has a correlation with it. But, Many girls 'I met' prefer circumcised guys. iykwim

And somehow you see genital mutilation as a more reasonable solution than people just washing their nasty ass?

Your buddy didn't get a UTI cause he was uncircumcised, he got one from being disgustingly filthy. He needs a bar of soap, not a bris.
I'm uncut, and have never once had any kind of cleanliness problems. My wife actually commented once that I was the cleanest guy she'd been with in that regard. Also I'm american, for those keeping count on the who is pro/con thing.

[Fahrenheit]

This. Don't you uncircumcised people find it somewhat odd that all the circumcised people support the practice? The majority of men I know were circumcised when they were infants, and in fact, in the US, it's quite rare to find a boy who is not circumcised. We are all doing just fine, and for the most part support the practice. The question I would pose to you is shouldn't we, the circumcised, have more say about the practice than most of you who have no clue what it is to be circumcised?

That's probaly the best post on this topic.

I see a lot of guys who're uncut railing against it. And I see guy who're cut, saying it's cool with me, I'll have it done to my son... If it were so damn awful wouldn't we, the ones who went through it and have lived with it be the ones who should be railing against it if it were so bad?

[Deleted]

Because female circumcision isn't anywhere in a comparable realm and for you to ask that question makes me question your credibility.

Also, there are reasons for circumcision. Unless you want to call reputable medical institutions unreliable.

Link one reputable medical institution that advocates the necessity of non-medical circumcision.

I'll wait.

[Ayonel]

TL;DR version: yes, it should be a person's choice, but this thread is ignoring the overwhelming evidence that shows circumcision reduces risk of a number of health issues for the circumcised person, and also the risk of transmitting The AiDS virus(regardless of your choice of partner) or other STD by a huge amount.

The likelihood of getting an STD if you have unprotected sex with an uncircumcised partner is orders of magnitude higher than with a circumcised partner. (sure, you should use protection, but 19 million cases a year makes it clear people don't.)

There is a reason Jews and Muslims have been doing it for so long; it works.

Female circumcision, however, is just plain mutilation that serves no functional purpose whatsoever.

[Deleted]

They can and they can't, that's the whole issue here, isn't it? it depends on the subject and country.

Well in a lot of countries you can decide for your children pretty freely. I just find it weird to see people calling it mutilation when someome gets circumciced But i'm sure a lot of those people find abortion ok. These are diffrent subjects i know But if circumcision isn't ok the other one shouldn't be ok at all. When it comes to deciding for yourself neither can. if its done from birth that is!

[nachoo]

to be honest, im circumsized and i masterbait quite a bit lol. Also it doesnt bother me, if fact i cant imagine my penis not circumsized lol,

[pateuvasiliu]

I don't see how it's mutilation to be honest. Sure it fits the textbook definition of it, but it's just some skin on your penis.

Yet another misinformed poster.

The foreskin covers the most sensitive part of your penis. When you cut it you expose the glans to the outside environment that will slowly make it lose its sensitivity.

it should be a person's choice, but this thread is ignoring the overwhelming evidence that shows circumcision reduces risk of a number of health issues for the circumcised person, and also the risk of transmitting The AiDS virus(regardless of your choice of partner) or other STD by a huge amount.

Bullshit bullshit bullshit. A thousand times bullshit.

You're cutting the liver before it develops a tumor. It's like cutting my balls because they -MIGHT- get cancerous at some point in my life.

As for STDs, you're not supposed to have unprotected sex with strangers, anyway.

Also, there are reasons for circumcision. Unless you want to call reputable medical institutions unreliable.

Reputable? THEY SELL THE FORESKIN TISSUE FOR RESEARCH. THEY GET MONEY FROM IT. DAMN STRAIGHT THEY SAY IT'S GOOD.

Get your head out of the sand.

[Underverse]

Are you actually serious?

Welllll he's kind of right. Sort of. What are you referring to that would counter his argument? There's at least one case, that being modern medicine, but are there any others?

[Deleted]

Foreign girls love American guys, id put money on the fact that their dicks dont wear turtle necks being one of the reasons for that.

Are you aware that the glans/foreskin is the most sensitive part of the penis? You're destroying a shit load of nerves in the name of Allah.

HAHAHAHAHA.

The one liners in this thread are killing me.

[A Day to Remember]

Get the hell out. My father and his father before me were never mutilated by these religious fanatics and they're very much alive and healthy. You're all being lied to, smartasses. How can ALTERING YOUR PERFECT BODY make it HEALTHIER? WHEN HAS THIS -EVER- happened?



explain to me how slapping your kid is frowned upon and even illegal but putting a scalpel near his genitals and taking a life changing decision for him is not.

Are you aware that the glans/foreskin is the most sensitive part of the penis? You're destroying a shit load of nerves in the name of Allah.

But if we hear of Female Circumcision all shit flips out. Double fucking standards.

Allah doesnt have shit to do with this, not being a religious man myself, and being turtleneck free i fully support the practice. If i have a son he will have his turtleneck removed as well because its just normal, if you like it or not.