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Yeah but dude thats an exceptional circumstance though.
The argument here is whether it shouldn't be done on babies since it is a procedure that carries risk and one that recent studies have concluded doesn't really offer any actual credible health benefits. On the contrary, in addition to the risk to the baby there is loss of sensitive tissue in an area which should have it the most.
It is how nature (and God if you happen to believe in that stuff - I don't) intended it, just like nature intended you to have 2 arms and 2 legs. Now you may have to make sure you clean your arms and legs....but chopping them off or mutilating them is surely not a viable alternative you would agree, no?
If someone would like circumcision for whatever reason, cosmetic and/or religious....they can have it done when they are old enough to legally consent to it much like any other cosmetic surgical procedure. Don't do it to babies who can't consent. It is mutilation by definition if done without consent.
EDIT: I am glad you and your 'willy' made it however, that ordeal sounds scary.
I guess maybe its more important in hot countries, where sweat might be an issue, but its generally not done in the UK - I remember in the shower at school, some guys had it cut, some didnt - no one gave a fuck. Is it really the case in the USA where people would be shunned for not having abit of skin cut off? - it makes very little difference either way - some doctors are for it, some against it - all i know is my grandfather wasnt cut, my father wasnt, I am not, and my son wont be -
A few points
*This is NOTHING NOTHING like female genital mutilation. Thats a horrific practice that takes away a functional part of the anatomy designed to keep a woman down. There is no good intentions or benefit perceived or otherwise. It is truly horrific and saying circumcision is like it cheapens the problem woman face and exaggerates this so called issue.
*As someone in the first few posts said, 20 years ago 80% had it done. Its was normal. Most people here should be around that age so it is normal to us. As being the norm, keeping the foreskin was considered abnormal. Its the way we were brought up. I am very happy with my circumcision. It looks better by far if nothing else.
(I got no fkn idea how Id teach my son to clean it. -To the interweb!)
This is the same I have heard in any conversation. Woman like the circumcised penis. They get the creeps from a circumcised one. Then again I am of the age where most my partners and friends grew up with it. Its the norm. New wave of teens, new way to change the world, its nothing new.
Oh yeah? Well from a male perspective then I wish every woman had breast implants before they are old enough to consent to getting them. They shouldn't even have a say in it, their parents should just go ahead and do it for them since thats what their future romantic partners will desire right? That is all that matters in a relationship ofcourse. A circumcised penis and great big breasts.
How do you like my "male perspective" then ma'am? You obviously must agree with this considering what you just wrote down.
I have had just one experience with a small/medium breasted woman with a modest physique and it was a major turn off. Just plain disgusting how inadequate she was. Why can't all women just get themselves breast implants and liposuction surgery? ALL of my guy friends agree with me. So I must be right.
I am sure you agree with me too of course though right? Considering your words here.
Sure you can teach a woman to dress and carry herself well, but it just isn't enough and most can't even manage the basics of it right.
I've seen it myself so it must be true of course.
So yeah lets give every unwilling female child breast implants and a lipo procedure. Approved by you and others like yourself of course.
If you haven't caught my blatantly obvious sarcasm yet, I pity the man who chose/will choose you. Congratulations on trying to justify the mutilation of babies so you can find their genitals more attractive when they grow up. You are despicable.
Last edited by Vokal; 2012-12-08 at 06:20 PM.
I want to know why people think circumcised people don't clean themselves either. I think by better hygiene it just means the moist sweatiness under the foreskin isn't going to be harboring bacteria throughout the day if you don't have it. Nobody is saying they don't clean and wash it anyway.
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double post
Last edited by mmoc71e4faf04c; 2012-12-08 at 06:29 PM. Reason: double post
1) No, anyone cutting foreskin off for that reason is not making a good decision.
2) No, anyone cutting foreskin off for that reason is not making a good decision.
I'm circumcised, I don't care what other women think about it because I was never one trying to get laid. I found a girl I loved, she loved me, we got married and we are happy. The foreskin I don't have isn't an issue. We both get a lot of pleasure with each other and I don't feel like having foreskin would make a difference to us.
Like I said before, also, I hope nobody is saying they don't clean their penis because they're circumcised. I take the better hygiene to mean that the foreskin isn't harboring bacteria in the moist and sweaty environment throughout the rest of the day that you're not showering.
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It depends if the benefits vastly overwhelm the downsides, like with vacination. For female circumcision, I've read have downsides and no benefits in later life. So yeah, female circumcision should definitely be the person's own choice.
But when it comes to males, It's nice that you don't have to clean it as much BUT I've heard that it actually decreases the enjoyment of sex (how much I do not know.)
I'm not circumcised so I cannot give a definite answer to it but females? Yeah definitely own choice.
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I'm circumcised, and I really don't care honestly. A child can't obviously make it's own decisions, so they must be made for them. No child is going to come out of the womb and say, "Hey, don't circumcise me please!"
I'm glad I'm circumcized. It is nto even remotely similar to female "circumcision".
Sensitive subject, circumcision is more painful if done at a grown age and its better that they get it done at a young age if it has to be done. I'm against circumcision fully myself but its better if its done at a young age then if they take that decision while being a grown man. It also probably have a bigger mental impact if done at a grown age then close to the date of the birth.
I have thought some more about it and I think I go for it being their own choice later in life.
But you're biased to this because you've never experienced NOT being circumcised. Also, there are people who have circumcised later in life, and it is their opinions on this matter that are important. I don't know statistics of people being happy they did it and those who weren't, but I've heard opinions from either side, and it's more balanced than you might think.
But, you know, the grass is always greener.
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Besides, if the argument of anti-circumcisioners is that the child should make their own decisions regarding medical procedures, be glad parents are willing to do what they believe is to be in the best interests of their child.
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