Mega-Thread: Gun Control Thread

[TZucchini]

Sorry I don't keep tabs on your "challenges" which statement was it exactly?

Right here bro. You can back up the fear mongering statement of yours.

[lockedout]

You don't know anything. You're assuming at this point.

It's a safe presumption.

[Rukentuts]

Well of course I don't want my gun ownership in a database. I've made it very clear my thoughts about that. But I don't think that was the intent right there.

Either way, if it was or it wasn't, I answered no. So win win.

So you aren't aware a doctor can't break privilege without: 1) your consent or 2) you being a threat to others or yourself.

[lockedout]

Right here bro. You can back up the fear mongering statement of yours.

I did it is why we are talking about it, it's a few pages back.

[TZucchini]

Don't lie. You don't want her to know because you don't want your name in some database. Don't try to pretend like it's something else to appease these people. We both know it's none of their business and they aren't asking for health concerns. After you answer the question I bet nothing more is said. No talk about how you store them etc. just a check in your medical records or entry onto a database. You're starting to sound like a tree hugging liberal.

Wow. The fear mongering and paranoia is strong with this one.

[lockedout]

So you aren't aware a doctor can't break privilege without: 1) your consent or 2) you being a threat to others or yourself.

If your doctor knows you have firearms and you come in one day in a bad mood what happens if they think you're "dangerous" you go on some list?

[TwoNineMarine]

So you aren't aware a doctor can't break privilege without: 1) your consent or 2) you being a threat to others or yourself.

Which is why I said I wasn't of the mindset that that is what she was doing. I felt that she was simply asking to inform me to lock up my weapons. Not to take meh guns. Lol

[lockedout]

Wow. The fear mongering and paranoia is strong with this one.

I don't see why else a doctor would ask if you own firearms but not things like a pool any large dogs or other animals heavy machinery/farm equipment etc. Wait I forgot pre-911 said I have a shit doctor that's probably why.

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Which is why I said I wasn't of the mindset that that is what she was doing. I felt that she was simply asking to inform me to lock up my weapons. Not to take meh guns. Lol

She would take note of the fact you own firearms. If she ever deemed you as "dangerous" then your fucked.

[TwoNineMarine]

I don't see why else a doctor would ask if you won firearms but not things like a pool any large dogs or other animals heavy machinery/farm equipment etc. Wait I forgot pre-911 said I have a shit doctor that's probably why.

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She would take note of the fact you own firearms. If she ever deemed you as "dangerous" then your fucked.

And she very well could. But either way I said no so hopefully it's not an issue lol

[TZucchini]

I did it is why we are talking about it, it's a few pages back.

Wow. Paranoid and incompetent.

You posted an article of individuals with known mental health issues being placed on a "no gun list."

You didn't post an article of physicians secretly collecting firearm info on their patients.

Nothing but fear and paranoia.

[lockedout]

And she very well could. But either way I said no so hopefully it's not an issue lol

Do you have any stairs in your house?

[TZucchini]

I don't see why else a doctor would ask if you own firearms

Why don't you do some reading then.

Oh, never mind, I forgot. The American Academy of Pediatrics is really just an Obama run organization hell-bent on obtaining firearm information for future seizures.

[Rukentuts]

Wow. Paranoid and incompetent.

You posted an article of individuals with known mental health issues being placed on a "no gun list."

You didn't post an article of physicians secretly collecting firearm info on their patients.

Nothing but fear and paranoia.

Pediatricians, psychologists...same thing. Right?

[lockedout]

Wow. Paranoid and incompetent.

You posted an article of individuals with known mental health issues being placed on a "no gun list."

You didn't post an article of physicians secretly collecting firearm info on their patients.

Nothing but fear and paranoia.

A previously undisclosed figure that has raised concerns among some mental health advocates that too many people have been categorized as dangerous.
Mental health professionals and advocates point out, however, the vast majority of people with mental illnesses are not violent. Accurately predicting whether someone will be violent, they said, is also a highly fraught process.

Under federal and most state laws, people with serious mental illnesses lose their gun rights only if they have been involuntarily committed to a mental health center, or have been legally designated as mentally ill or incompetent; both relatively rare occurrences.

Under the 2013 law, the reports prepared by doctors, psychologists, nurses and social workers are first sent to county officials. If they agree with the assessments, the officials then input the names into the state database. The information is retained for five years. If the authorities find a person in the database has a gun permit — necessary to purchase a handgun in New York — they are required to revoke the license and seize any guns. The people in the database are barred from obtaining a permit until their names are purged.

[TZucchini]

Pediatricians, psychologists...same thing. Right?

Fuck if I know, Ruk. It's really none of your business. AM I BEING DETAINED??

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A previously undisclosed figure that has raised concerns among some mental health advocates that too many people have been categorized as dangerous.
Mental health professionals and advocates point out, however, the vast majority of people with mental illnesses are not violent. Accurately predicting whether someone will be violent, they said, is also a highly fraught process.

Under federal and most state laws, people with serious mental illnesses lose their gun rights only if they have been involuntarily committed to a mental health center, or have been legally designated as mentally ill or incompetent; both relatively rare occurrences.

Under the 2013 law, the reports prepared by doctors, psychologists, nurses and social workers are first sent to county officials. If they agree with the assessments, the officials then input the names into the state database. The information is retained for five years. If the authorities find a person in the database has a gun permit — necessary to purchase a handgun in New York — they are required to revoke the license and seize any guns. The people in the database are barred from obtaining a permit until their names are purged.

You didn't post an article of physicians secretly collecting firearm info on their patients. The article even states that of the 34,000 individuals that were placed on the list, only 300 were found to actually have a permit. That's less than 1 percent.

Nothing but fear and paranoia.

[lockedout]

Fuck if I know, Ruk. It's really none of your business. AM I BEING DETAINED??

Some people like their privacy, I know you don't understand because you have nothing to hide.

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Fuck if I know, Ruk. It's really none of your business. AM I BEING DETAINED??

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You didn't post an article of physicians secretly collecting firearm info on their patients. The article even states that of the 34,000 individuals that were placed on the list, only 300 were found to actually have a permit. That's less than 1 percent.

Nothing but fear and paranoia.

It doesnt change the fact 34000 people are banned from owning guns regardless if they already did or not.

[TwoNineMarine]

Do you have any stairs in your house?

I do not. Unless you count the step out onto my patio lol

[Rukentuts]

You didn't post an article of physicians secretly collecting firearm info on their patients. The article even states that of the 34,000 individuals that were placed on the list, only 300 were found to actually have a permit. That's less than 1 percent.

Nothing but fear and paranoia.

A fraction of a % is banned, but that's a travesty! Even though I can't prove the system is abusive!

It's like straight out of info wars.

[lockedout]

I do not. Unless you count the step out onto my patio lol

You know how many children die from falling down stairs as opposed to firearms? I bet you doctor could give a fuck if you have stairs.

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A fraction of a % is banned, but that's a travesty! Even though I can't prove the system is abusive!

It's like straight out of info wars.

All 34k are banned not just the 300.

[TZucchini]

It doesnt change the fact 34000 people are banned from owning guns regardless if they already did or not.

Wait. You mean that there's a law in which doctors, psychologists, nurses and social workers review the mental health status of committed individuals. Those health professionals make suggestions, which are reviewed by the state Office of Mental Health, and if they agree with the assessment, the individuals are placed on a "no gun list."

OH. THE HUMANITY. People with serious mental illness can no longer obtain firearms in NY. The founding fathers would be sick!

Lockedout. Remember when Aeluron Lightsong said "I'm not willing to risk those with mental health be able to have access to a gun," to which you responded with:

I think everyone can agree with this, I haven't seen someone say anything to the contrary.

What caused the change in character?