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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Zao View Post
    I've no idea what the legal perspective on this is. But morally your brother is a piece of shit, basically extorting a girl because he can't get laid by normal means.
    Yep. I hope the OP has morals unlike his brother and calls the police.


    If I was in his brothers shoes I would offer the girl the rent reduction just because I felt bad for her. I mean she's barely an adult, and has to support her brother and herself.
    Last edited by muto; 2012-12-27 at 08:05 AM.

  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    a little overboard we going now, are we?

    5 posts and already on the report list? That's an achievement.
    Who cares, the bitch is annoying. I can almost imagine the person irl being stupid as fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    That poor girl =/
    I hope she will be able turn her life around, go back to university and go on to great things.

    Your brother is an immoral and unethical douchebag preying on the vulnerable. You know in your heart that what he's doing is wrong, or you wouldn't be on here. Talk to him about it, and see if you can help her out directly.
    This, so much of this.

    I'd go so far as to offer to take her out to a lunch or something, and discuss things, try to do something, get her help, whatever you can.

    I feel bad for her reading this story and wish I could do something. =/

    Your brother can screw off, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stir View Post
    You're wrong. Porn stars aren't exploited, and believe me, there's quite a lot of people who want to be porn stars because they love the job.
    F-grade porn actors are often exploited, but that's a very far cry from porn STARS.

    This person (hypothetical or not) is being exploited, and the exploitation is illegal. It's really as bloody simple as that.

    Sorry but you are the very last person that should be trying to define what exploitation is, and regardless of what you have been told or read about anywhere, it is exploitation. It just falls under the guise of being something else, because certain people make a lot of money off the fact that it is in demand.


    But far be it from me, to complain, I mean it is what it is, but you can't call one exploitation and another one not because it doesn't fit the legal definition and by that i mean porn.



    This woman was violated and the act was immoral, that isn't what is in dispute, i am saying honestly it isn't that big of a deal this concerns adults, and she should mind her own business, unless she is honestly going to put this woman up. She might honestly make a bad situation worse.

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    That is repulsive!! Please say something to your brother, I know if my asshole brother were being a disgusting creep I would say something

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    im pretty sure this is illegal in most countries O-O
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  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by DEATHETERNAL View Post
    If the OP is not legit:
    Begone whelp.

    If the OP is legit or I just feeling responding to this theoretical:
    Your brother is scum. There is no better way to put that. I would quite literally physically beat my brother to within an inch of his life (yes, I really do mean that) if he did something like this. The girl is weak to the point of allowing the total destruction of her decency to avoid financial issues. Far better that she starve to death (or avoid that by going and getting help like she is perfectly capable of doing from any number of private institutions) and her brother go into foster care than she agree to what is described. Everyone in this situation is evil and/or weak to a ridiculous level (except the young brother assuming he has no knowledge of this whole arrangement) including yourself OP for not putting a stop to it.
    You're a worse person than the hypothetical brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unsakred View Post
    If you guys go through his past threads, copy and paste any part of his stories into Google, with quotes, you'll see he's just copying questions off Yahoo! Answers.
    It's unfortunately a very real situation. My mom once almost mediated a similar civil case (and yes, the judge sent it to fucking mediation... that's how the woman was able to get a different judge).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    Why do these threads always turn into Semaphore hatefests? Seems people can't take logic and reason very well.
    Her logic is irrefutable. But the way she delivers her arguments get the better off people sometimes. Me included

    People go into an argument thinking they can win, they always leave disappointed... and banned!

  10. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    Sorry but you are the very last person that should be trying to define what exploitation is
    it is exploitation
    Hypocrisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shytowne View Post
    Who cares, the bitch is annoying. I can almost imagine the person irl being stupid as fuck.
    We care....

    I don't think you're getting old here on MMOC..

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    Hypocrisy.


    I was talking about porn not the situation. It is hypocrisy, but one mostly being seen by you and the few people trying to white knight what seems to be a fish story.

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    I do not deal with this type of law. That being said, in nearly all states within the US this would be illegal solicitation. Yes, this is not only abhorrent morally, but it would be illegal. If the claim is that the act is in Canada, than ill abstain from postulating the legality and leave it at amoral. While it seems pretty clear that the OP has fabricated the scenario, three things really surprise me about this thread (not in order).

    1) That people REALLY don’t see why this act is disgusting morally.
    2) The fact that the OP mentioned his brother was a gross 300lb man, like the attractiveness of the perpetrator should matter morally or legally.
    3) That people think activities such as this are hyperbolic. There has been a rise of these types of solicitations due to the recession. Particularly
    despicable cases occurring right after Katrina, Sandy, etc (natural disasters where people lost their homes or in some cases just needed gas
    to survive).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergtau View Post
    You're a worse person than the hypothetical brother.
    Why is it that the only thing you ever respond to me with is insults instead of anything substantive? Maybe it is because you have nothing substantive in the first place?
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  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadocaster View Post
    Actually yes. In Alberta at least, where I live, you need to claim any type of money you make regardless of reasoning on your T4. Under-the-table deals like this are frowned upon. You probably wouldn't go to jail, but if the provincial government ever got wind of it and audited you, you could owe ALOT in backtaxes.
    I see. Well then, yes, this hypothetical landlord is a piece of trash.

  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    Sorry but you are the very last person that should be trying to define what exploitation is, and regardless of what you have been told or read about anywhere, it is exploitation. It just falls under the guise of being something else, because certain people make a lot of money off the fact that it is in demand.

    But far be it from me, to complain, I mean it is what it is, but you can't call one exploitation and another one not because it doesn't fit the legal definition and by that i mean porn.



    This woman was violated and the act was immoral, that isn't what is in dispute, i am saying honestly it isn't that big of a deal this concerns adults, and she should mind her own business, unless she is honestly going to put this woman up. She might honestly make a bad situation worse.
    'I am the very last person that should be trying to define exploitation' based on... What, exactly? My being Dutch? Having some understanding of laws and judicial systems? Being a human? What, exactly?
    Also: There is a huge difference between porn stárs and people that are forced into pornography. Far from all 'porn' is actual pornography... Much of the smut you see in cheap porn movies (especially the eastern european ones) is, indeed, exploitation. Those people are victims, though, and not porn stars.
    As for making a bad situation worse: Hardly. You see, that's what we've got laws for. They don't exist merely to stop the crime, but there are also procedures that help and support the victim. Procedures such as, for instance, finding affordable living space. Getting grants in order to pay for the child's education. Debt-relief. And more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shytowne View Post
    Who cares, the bitch is annoying. I can almost imagine the person irl being stupid as fuck.
    Yeah... It's annoying when you can't win a debate because you're holding abviously failing system 1 arguments.
    Last edited by Stir; 2012-12-27 at 08:13 AM.

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Shytowne View Post
    Who cares, the bitch is annoying. I can almost imagine the person irl being stupid as fuck.
    Well this made me chuckle

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    I was talking about porn not the situation. It is hypocrisy, but one mostly being seen by you and the few people trying to white knight what seems to be a fish story.
    I'm pretty sure everyone is long past realizing that this isn't a real story. Several people (including semaphore) involved in the discussion have actually addressed it being fake. People are discussing it as a hypothetical situation now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    She is in financial trouble, and in this story the landlord knows it. It is exploiting someone in a position of weakness (hence immoral) with a clear implied threat from someone in a position of power (hence illegal).
    Hmh. Where is the threat? I haven't seen anywhere she'd be under threat of losing the accomodation. She just doesn't have to pay so much now.
    It is still immoral from him, I can agree on that. And I don't get how can he be such a dick with no conscience whatsoever. I just don't think it's as clear cut as you make it sound from the legal point ov view. It would really depend on where is this taking place... You can't classify it as rape, that's for sure. Sexual exploitation it admittedly could be depending on the local law and it's definition of sexual exploitation... It would involve a lot of word-games.

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    I was talking about porn not the situation.
    Doesn't matter. You keep telling everyone else that they can't define morality or exploitation or whatever, while you do the exact same thing yourself.

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