I agree parents should have an input, but if we have schools do it, we know everyone has had a unified, and minimum standard of sex education delivered by professionals. Parents could be amazing, or terrible at it.
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They are; massively!
Internet Pornography is readily available, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, in all forms and varieties. You can find anything you want on the internet, from the silly and stupid to the extreme and dangerous. Having access to this sort of thing will (and does) warp peoples views of their partner (and themselves) should be doing during sex.
I've personally felt it a few times where I'd love my girlfriend to do a few things, but I realise very quickly that sex and porn are very different matters. I just keep my fantasies to myself, and watch what I want, knowing it is much better that my relationship with my girlfriend is based on respect for each other and our sexual limits, rather then her (or me) doing things we're uncomfortable with, because we saw it in a porno.
Porno Magazines however are not readily available. The chances of a kid buying them are low, and the chances of someone finding their dads stash is low also. Doesn't mean to say it doesn't happen, but the magazine will only go so far. It'll show only so much, and offer that as a limit. The internet though allows you to move from one extreme to another.
Porn can become an addiction. If you've only got magazines, you're only going to get so much, but with the plethora of options online, you might just find that one video isn't doing it for you anymore, so you look for something that does, something a little more extreme. Again, I've seen it in a lot of people I know, who start watching porn and just enjoy a blowjob video, and within a few months I find on their computers (when fixing them) some pretty rough, extreme stuff.
Meme, yet relevant image, NSFW: http://www.memecenter.com/fun/203788/what-have-i-become
Most people would associate with that image.
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Wait... what? You say that we'd be hard pressed to find a study, and then in the very next breath say that they're there? I do not think "hard pressed" means what you think it means. Here are several showing positive effects, that took me approximately 60 seconds to find with a quick Google search:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...or-detrimental
http://link.springer.com/article/10....508-007-9212-1
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19665229
http://www.examiner.com/article/scie...ychology-today
http : // business.avn.com/articles/legal/Studies-Show-Pornography-Actually-is-Beneficial-for-You-381709.html <-- NSFW picture with this article! I put some spaces in the "http://" stuff to break it so you can't click accidentally.
That aside, there's a very large gap between "I believe I'm right because studies X, Y, and Z say it's bad," and "You're all a bunch of children screaming for what you want, I pity the future!" One can lead to an interesting discussion, the other is not exactly helpful.
I don't think internet pornography, with its unlimited access and lack of control mechanism to block under-age individuals accessing pornography is a good thing, but masturbation has been shown, hundreds of times to be positive for both Men & Women.
Heck, even the feeling alone is proof enough that it can be good for you. It is a great stress relief, and in women can even cure Headaches & Colds! There is zero reason, religious, scientific, or socially to believe masturbation is wrong.
Unlimited access to pornography however is different, but you're comparing the two wrong matters.
This may not be helping you out, honestly. I've seen some things in porn that I found very interesting before. I mentioned them to my boyfriend to see how he felt about them, and it turned out he thought they were just as interesting. We both discovered some fun new activities. Never be afraid to ask - if she's not comfortable with the idea then absolutely don't push her, but simply asking is rarely a bad thing.
Okay fine I have read the articles you posted and you have very good points against my argument. However, the studies I posted have very strong points against your argument. In essence we are both wrong and correct. We are locked in stalemate without a foreseeable solution.
As always the problem is parents shirking there responsibilities and later looking for someone to blame for why there kids are so messed up. Big hint it's not internet porn or violent movies or violent video games it's the simple fact you failed your kids and refused to set boundaries or monitor them.
You can't compare internet porn with violent movies and violent video games. I think most people who watch die hard or hostel knows that the movie is fake and actors are acting. I also think most people who play mortal combat or GTA know that it's fake. But I cannot say the same about internet porn. Do most people realize those porn are also fake with actors and actresses putting on a good show for entertainment purpose?
I think it is a bad thing for a person to watch hostel and believe it's real. I also think it's a bad thing for a person to play GTA and think it's real. Similarly, I think it's a bad thing for a person to watch porn while thinking that is the real deal.
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Meh, who knows. There have always been sexual references in society, especially in media. It seems now that movie ratings, etc., are actually getting stricter instead of more lenient in terms of graphic content.
Porn leading to rape is kinda like saying videogames lead to violence, and I don't think either one is true. Mostly just shit made up by people who despise both. If you wanna put an efford in removing a really bad part of society, remove religion!
No one brings porn to school. No need to worry about that...
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They can try. But kids are very VERY resourceful. If a teenie wants porn, believe me, he will get it somehow.Parents can't regulate the internet? They need the government to help?
The important factor about parenting is to talk to your kid, letting it know that porn, just like any other movie, employs fictional scenarios, practices and that they use tricks behind the camera to make stuff possible.
If said teen knows that porn is just phantasy, he/she can watch and enjoy it for what it is: adult entertainment.
Majority of studies? You've three. All dealing with addiction. It stands to reason from the scarcity of evidence you've presented that you'd have a better argument for Prohibition.
The studies don't show that porn is harmful, either - they show that addiction to porn has some adverse effects. Who knew additiction was bad?
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All very true; I'm just trying to point that the government isn't really going to do a better job than parents can.
Internet point is on of the leading causes of innovation of the Internet.
If person watching knows its not real, porn wont do any harm. However problem arises when one starts thinking 'normal' sex is like porn and than gets dissapointed becouse he cant perform as well as actors he's been watching. Of course if he fails to pleasure his/her partner its 2x dissapintment & 2x frustration.