Sadly this is also accurate...and ironic. He surrounded himself with Newtown survivors. But not one of his ideas would have stopped the shooter from stealing the guns (which he did) and going on that rampage. The closest Obama came was the "resource officer," which might have mitigated some of the damage.
The money is already available and the government says X amount must go towards "after school" programs for example. Now the President is saying X amount can go towards security guards.
Just who the fuck does the NRA suspect will pay for all these security guards they are lobbying for?
So you're seriously going to sit there and tell me that hundreds of years ago, guns, fundamentally a type of technology, were invented to hunt?
I'm sorry this is wrong. The first guns were called "hand cannons". Their direct descendants were actually created to kill enemy infantry from out of range of pikes in use at the time. Once they were introduced into the battlefield, all other kingdoms started to adopt them, and the technology matured into different types of loading, cartridges, projectiles, sizes, and rates of fire... all for the purpose of allowing the infantryman with a gun to kill more of the enemy more efficiently, while himself not being killed first.
So just don't forget what a gun is. Your favorite toy is a direct ancestor of a technology created to slaughter other human beings en masse and allow one kingdom to conquer and pillage another.
And the difference is one of scale. Video Gaming is inexpensive. Gun ownership is not. There is also nothing morally wrong with video gaming, whereas with gun owners, just remember, the only purpose of a gun, from it being aimed at a Buck or a Human, is to extinguish life.
The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities.
Handguns are not solely designed to kill others. Most handguns are used for recreational sport shooting. I use mine to relax at the end of a long day. Its how people use them that is the difference. And a majority of the people in the US dont use their handguns to kill they use them for sport. Also there are many other rifles that were designed either for recreation or for hunting animals...not humans. I have never seen a gun advertised at my local gun store that has the label "Designed to kill Humans"
I'm not refusing to acknowledge the power of guns I am trying to point out they are not made to kill humans they are made for sport and recreation...
Pretty much this. Now that Obama doesn't have to deal with 2 years of the previous administration's policies looming over his presidency, campaigning for reelection, or a bunch of fearful, whiny politicians that pander to big corporations, we can get something done. Can't wait for this country to get back on track to being respected and not the butt end of every joke and the laughing stock of the rest of the world. Our economy has already started to turn around. The yearly GDP is already on the rise again, turned around from the complete nose dive that the previous administration left it in. Conservatives can point to our increasing debt and record levels of debt, but the number that matters is that the rate at which that debt is increasing is grinding to a halt and is headed towards going in the other direction.
I'm sorry if you're fearful of a tyrannical government, I'm sorry if you buy into all the anti Obama BS that's being spread. It must suck to live in that delusional world right about now, but for the rest of us who are patriotic to our country and not just our government or our party, this is a good day.
2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"
What you're using it for is irrelevant. Handguns are designed to be used against people. That is their purpose. "Sport shooting" is practice to improve your skills at doing so. This is why many target range targets are shaped like people, with scoring based on how deadly the shot would be by getting it closer to center mass.
No handgun on the market was designed for "sport and recreation". That is simply not true, period.
It's like swords. You can tell me you only use your sword for tai chi meditations and demonstrations, and that's fine. But swords are still designed with one purpose; killing other people. You might like them for OTHER reasons, but that's what they were designed for.
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All guns are weapons of war. Pick your terminology however you like. "Firearm", aka an "Arm" that "Fires" or "of Fire", Arm being another word for "weapon". All weapons are fundamentally "of war" no matter their purpose. Their origin is the same - all sourced to the original hand cannons of China and Late-Middle Ages Europe. And their purpose is only one thing: to end the life of something... an deer, a duck, a pheasant or a human.
They are a technology whose only purpose is to bring about death and whose origin is specifically the killing of other human beings.
Genetically you could say, all guns are Weapons of War. Even your favorite hunting rifle, or are you going to seriously tell me that Smith and Wesson (or whoever) in designing said rifle didn't use chambering, rifling and gas reloading technology first pioneered in military weaponry before making your favorite toy?
Once again you demonstrate your ignorance of guns and use. Sure guns originated for battlefield use, but look at the guns we have today. The ones regular citizens own are not used for war. They are used for sports and recreation. Sure people hunt with guns, but they also use guns to relax. I myself have never shot an animal or person with any of the guns I own. Responsible gun owners know how to use their guns and avoid the type of bloodthirsty rampaging you are describing. Guns don't kill people...bad people with guns do.
So if the kid at Newtown only had 10 round clips, somehow in your mind, less people would have died? You do know that pants have pockets right? You can put magazines in your pockets. It takes less than 10 seconds . . I'm sorry, 3 seconds to reload a firearm with a clip/magazine. So do you think Obama should outlaw pockets on Jeans and Slacks and Shorts too?? Or just Jeans? Or just shorts. . . . Or capris? or all of the above?
Do you own or use any handguns? THere are several models designed specifically for sports shooting. Most of the lowest caliber lines won't even do enough damage to kill someone. I myself love my glock .22 and that would only be capable of killing someone at very close range. I also would never use it like that. Also you have to take into account the type of ammo people are using with those guns. Gun owners arent all bloodthirsty killers like people in this thread are making us out to be.