Lone Star College Shooting: 3 People Shot At Texas College Campus, Suspect At Large

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and if you look a little closer you'd note that the UK tracks crime differently than the US.

Indeed, out here we class someone shoving another person as a violent crime. Infact, jumping out in front of someone and shouting boo at them, making them jump, is classed as assault because your actions caused them to do something against their will.

[Reeve]

Indeed, out here we class someone shoving another person as a violent crime. Infact, jumping out in front of someone and shouting boo at them, making them jump, is classed as assault because your actions caused them to do something against their will.

Approaching someone in a manner that could cause "a reasonable person" to fear for their safety generally constitutes assault in the US, whether or not you ever touch the person.

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Approaching someone in a manner that could cause "a reasonable person" to fear for their safety generally constitutes assault in the US, whether or not you ever touch the person.

Thankfully out here you cannot legally be shot for it.

[Porcell]

Thankfully out here you cannot legally be shot for it.

Don't be naive, you can't legally shoot someone here for it (it = "Approaching someone in a manner that could cause "a reasonable person" to fear for their safety generally constitutes assault in the US, whether or not you ever touch the person.") Edit: To clarify, in order to take lethal action against someone you must be in immediate danger of great bodily harm or death, or that of a bystander, or to stop a sexual assault. Not merely "an assault."

I'll just repeat what someone said a minute ago: "Because this shit happens EVERY. DAY. It's life, people die, people live. You'd be astounded at how low crime actually is, or isn't, in the U.S. and in other places."

It's just crime, I don't care. A couple bystanders got shot during some crime, not even killed. Crime happens. People get hurt. I don't really care. I will do the best to protect myself personally by carrying a gun. Chances are I will NEVER have to pull my gun and use it to defend myself. I mean that, the chances are very low that it will ever happen in my lifetime. There are people who carry for 50 years and never have to defend themselves. But I take my own precautions and refuse to be a victim. And I can only hope that other law abiding citizens are empowered to protect themselves. I can't help but feel that crime would decrease if there were armed citizens who were prepared to defend themselves.

[Again, I am NOT saying "give everyone guns." I am saying to allow those people who choose to lawfully own guns to do so unhindered. I don't want to put a gun into the hand of someone who doesn't want it.]

[oxymoronic]

The "left" is more of a dog and pony show, promising good tidings, but enacting things like forced healthcare or jailtime.

The "right" has become more of a, CHRISTIAN NATION MY WAY OR TEH HIGHWAY AND DRUGS R BAD MKAY, kind of idiocy.

Neither actually care about the "common man", they just want checks for life, most of them anyway.

I agree.

Also why do people associate an Ar-15 as a military type weapon when it functions just like other rifles... I despise people that try to debate gun laws but do not know the difference between "assault weapons" and an actual assault rifle.

[Porcell]

I agree.

Also why do people associate an Ar-15 as a military type weapon when it functions just like other rifles... I despise people that try to debate gun laws but do not know the difference between "assault weapons" and an actual assault rifle.

The term "military-style" is a poor descriptor as it refers to the cosmetic look of a rifle. I wish people would be clear about what they are talking about, instead of saying things like "high capacity" and "military style" and "assault weapon." Scary terms for normal items.

By the way, semi-automatic rifles are excellent home defense weapons, about the same as a shotgun and far superior to a handgun. Read some expert opinions on the topic. I'd rather have an AR for a home defense weapon than my handgun. The reason I have a handgun is because I can carry it; you can't really feasibly carry around an AR.

[Scinder]

Many on here believing that the US has the highest crime rate or the highest murder rate need a lesson in research.

Here is a list of of countries that have a higher murder rate than the US per 100,000 (Sorry for the poor formatting) The number next to the country is the murder rate per 100k people.


Country Rate Count Region Subregion
Honduras 91.6 7,104 Americas Central America
El Salvador 69.2 4,308 Americas Central America
Côte d'Ivoire 56.9 10,801 Africa Western Africa
Jamaica 52.2 1,430 Americas Caribbean
Venezuela 45.1 13,080 Americas South America
Belize 41.4 129 Americas Central America
U.S. Virgin Islands 39.2 43 Americas Caribbean
Guatemala 38.5 5,681 Americas Central America
Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2 20 Americas Caribbean
Lesotho 35.2 764 Africa Southern Africa
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2 472 Americas Caribbean
South Africa 31.8 15,940 Africa Southern Africa
Colombia 31.0 14,670+[9] Americas South America
Congo 30.8 1,180 Africa Middle Africa
Central African Republic 29.3 1,240 Africa Middle Africa
Bahamas 27.4 94 Americas Caribbean
Puerto Rico 26.2 983 Americas Caribbean
Saint Lucia 25.2 44 Americas Caribbean
Dominican Republic 25.0 2,513 Americas Caribbean
Tanzania 24.5 10,357 Africa Eastern Africa
Sudan 24.2 10,028++ Africa Northern Africa
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9 25 Americas Caribbean
Mexico 22.7 25,757+ Americas Northern America
Ethiopia 22.5 20,239 Africa Eastern Africa
Guinea 22.5 2,152 Africa Western Africa
Dominica 22.1 15 Americas Caribbean
Burundi 21.7 1,726 Africa Eastern Africa
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7 13,558 Africa Middle Africa
Panama 21.6 759 Americas Central America
Brazil 21.0 40,974 Americas South America
Equatorial Guinea 20.7 137 Africa Middle Africa
Guinea-Bissau 20.2 294 Africa Western Africa
Kenya 20.1 7,733 Africa Eastern Africa
Kyrgyzstan 20.1 1,072 Asia Central Asia
Cameroon 19.7 3,700 Africa Middle Africa
Montserrat 19.7 1 Americas Caribbean
Greenland 19.2 11 Europe Northern Europe
Angola 19.0 3,426 Africa Middle Africa
Guyana 18.6 140 Americas South America
Burkina Faso 18.0 2,876 Africa Western Africa
Eritrea 17.8 879 Africa Eastern Africa
Namibia 17.2 352 Africa Southern Africa
Rwanda 17.1 1,708 Africa Eastern Africa
Chad 15.8 1,686 Africa Middle Africa
Ghana 15.7 3,646 Africa Western Africa
Ecuador 15.2 2,638 Americas South America
North Korea 15.2 3,658 Asia Eastern Asia
Benin 15.1 1,262 Africa Western Africa
Sierra Leone 14.9 837 Africa Western Africa
Mauritania 14.7 485 Africa Western Africa
Botswana 14.5 287 Africa Southern Africa
Zimbabwe 14.3 1,775 Africa Eastern Africa
Gabon 13.8 200 Africa Middle Africa
Nicaragua 13.6 785 Americas Central America
French Guiana 13.3 30 Americas South America
Papua New Guinea 13.0 854 Oceania Melanesia
Swaziland 12.9 141 Africa Southern Africa
Bermuda 12.3 8 Americas Northern America
Comoros 12.2 85 Africa Eastern Africa
Nigeria 12.2 18,422 Africa Western Africa
Cape Verde 11.6 56 Africa Western Africa
Grenada 11.5 12 Americas Caribbean
Paraguay 11.5 741 Americas South America
Barbados 11.3 31 Americas Caribbean
Togo 10.9 627 Africa Western Africa
Gambia 10.8 106 Africa Western Africa
Peru 10.3 2,969 Americas South America
Myanmar 10.2 4,800 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Russia 10.2 14,574 Europe Eastern Europe
Liberia 10.1 371 Africa Western Africa
Costa Rica 10.0 474 Americas Central America
Nauru 9.8 1 Oceania Micronesia
Bolivia 8.9 884 Americas South America
Mozambique 8.8 1,925 Africa Eastern Africa
Kazakhstan 8.8 1,418 Asia Central Asia
Senegal 8.7 1,027 Africa Western Africa
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7 3 Americas Caribbean
Mongolia 8.7 239 Asia Eastern Asia
British Virgin Islands 8.6 2 Americas Caribbean
Cayman Islands 8.4 5 Americas Caribbean
Seychelles 8.3 7 Africa Eastern Africa
Madagascar 8.1 1,588 Africa Eastern Africa
Indonesia 8.1 18,963 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Mali 8.0 1,157 Africa Western Africa
Pakistan 7.8 13,860+ Asia Southern Asia
Moldova 7.5 267 Europe Eastern Europe
Kiribati 7.3 7 Oceania Micronesia
Guadeloupe 7.0 32 Americas Caribbean
Haiti 6.9 689 Americas Caribbean
Timor-Leste 6.9 75 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Anguilla 6.8 1 Americas Caribbean
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8 6 Americas Caribbean
Lithuania 6.6 219 Europe Northern Europe
Uruguay 5.9 199 Americas South America
Philippines 5.4 4,947 Asia South-Eastern Asia
Ukraine 5.2 2,356 Europe Eastern Europe
Estonia 5.2 70 Europe Northern Europe
Cuba 5.0 563 Americas Caribbean
Belarus 4.9 473 Europe Eastern Europe



The United States in 2012 had the 5th most homicides by firearm in the world. The US also has more than 8 times more guns than almost every country in the world (88 per 100). The only countries that are even close are Switzerland (46), Finland (45) and Yemen (54).

Here's another interesting fact. The WHO released a report that indicates that there are 107 countries with a higher murder rate per 100k than the US. Almost every single one of those countries has a 100% ban or close to 100% on firearms.

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~snip~

Put it in descending order and every country above the USA is third world or a warzone. Apart from Russia, but Russia has always been special.

[starlord]

I agree.

Also why do people associate an Ar-15 as a military type weapon when it functions just like other rifles... I despise people that try to debate gun laws but do not know the difference between "assault weapons" and an actual assault rifle.

probably because its a slightly modified m16. they even have interchangeable parts.

[Scinder]

Yeah I saw that after I posted. It's been fixed. I sorted it by murder rate but somehow it reverted to sorting by sub region. I am not sure why Australia did not make the cut. The UNODC recently issued a report on Australia murder and assault rate which was way above many countries including the US.

[Greeney]

Many on here believing that the US has the highest crime rate or the highest murder rate need a lesson in research.

Here is a list of of countries that have a higher murder rate than the US per 100,000 (Sorry for the poor formatting) The number next to the country is the murder rate per 100k people.

Here's another interesting fact. The WHO released a report that indicates that there are 107 countries with a higher murder rate per 100k than the US. Almost every single one of those countries has a 100% ban or close to 100% on firearms.

Can you modify that list to include only first world countries please?

[Grizzly Willy]

Put it in descending order and every country above the USA is third world or a warzone. Apart from Russia, but Russia has always been special.

You know you're doing well when the company you keep is consists of third world countries.

[GreatOak]

http://stats.oecd.org/
http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crim...ecdjan2012.pdf
http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/topics/safety/ more specifically http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/c...united-states/

The notion that America is a horrible place to live is greatly exaggerated

[Scinder]

While I usually have a little free time at the office, it's not that much where I can categorize by each country/region/economic status. The data I pulled came from the UNODC, WHO and the Guardian which I have linked below.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...hip-world-list

[A Day to Remember]

Put it in descending order and every country above the USA is third world or a warzone. Apart from Russia, but Russia has always been special.

How is Russia special, but America is not? We are a country founded on guns and our right to own them.

[Deleted]

How is Russia special, but America is not? We are a country founded on guns and our right to own them.

So is Russia.

[A Day to Remember]

So is Russia.

So youre willing to accept that Russia is more violent then the US, and you arent calling for any special laws to restrict their violence, but you feel there needs to be more restrictions on guns in the US.

[Deleted]

So youre willing to accept that Russia is more violent then the US, and you arent calling for any special laws to restrict their violence, but you feel there needs to be more restrictions on guns in the US.

Russia does not claim to be the leader of the free world. Is the USA not supposed to be the opposite of Russia? At least that is how it was in the cold war, funny how the roles are slowly changing.

[Dhurn]

probably because its a slightly modified m16. they even have interchangeable parts.

A "slight modification" that is the difference between about 800 possible rounds per minute and ~120-200 rounds per minute depending on the shooter's trigger speed.

[smelltheglove]

A "slight modification" that is the difference between about 800 possible rounds per minute and ~120-200 rounds per minute depending on the shooter's trigger speed.

and whether their finger cramps, lol