Originally Posted by
burnout
What are you actually wiping to? Is it just being overwhelmed by bolts on the main platform? or are people dying on the platforms? After the 3rd cackle, nobody should ever really stop moving, it might be that you don't have a very mobile raid and thats your problem, if thats the case, you might want to kill a few adds.
When we are getting the buff, we have always done it the same as normal, ignore adds and just burn the boss on the platform. For us the issue without the 15% haste buff has always been the archers, so we save all DPS cooldowns for them. We hero at the start, but don't use any CDs (unless you're a warlock with their cd reduction from the tier set). Without the haste buff we generally push soon after the 4th cackle, at that point its fairly hairy for the ranged dps to do much aside from dot and run, but as long as dps isn't too slow you shouldn't need to kill adds at all.
Actually that is how we do it even when we have the buff, 3 min cooldowns always line up for the archers, and we're waiting for a solid 10-20 seconds on the main platform to push the boss once the 3rd group of cackles gets back so they go into p2 with the fearless buff. So there is not really any point in blowing CDs at the start, and since dps is more important in p2, we have our dps on the 3rd cackle hold off their CDs so that they can pop them as soon as they get ported to phase 2, and they'll be reset again right away.