resil change...confused

[c2dholla619]

since resil is being removed from most gear will pve gear be used in pvp more now? pvers will have 65% resil along with the pve dps on the other hand pvpers will have 65% with the pvp dps. it is obvious what will do better. seems pve gear will stomp pvp gear in pvp. i hope i didnt read this right cause it doesnt make sense.am i going to have to avoid pvers in pvp. please tell me i misunderstood this.

[MiLLeR]

So many threads on this already, was another really necessary

[Mormolyce]

You mean in world PVP? In BGs and Arenas everything will be scaled down to Conquest gear, so top end PVE and PVP gear will have the same effective ILVL, but PVP gear has PVP Power which doesn't count towards the ILVL budget so it will always win.

Out in the world, there is no gear scaling and people are still arguing in other threads over which will win out. PVP gear still has PVP Power which PVE gear lacks. I'd say that even if Heroic raid gear comes out better than conquest gear, it'll be by such a small margin that it effectively won't matter what you wear in world PVP.

Also, resil is still going to be available on gems and enchants so PVE gear will have a resil disadvantage as well. Unless you put resil gems in your Heroic raid gear.

[Snuggli]

It's been answered 100 times on this forum, on ArenaJunkies, on Holinka's twitter and on the PvP blog.

There is an item level 'cap' for instanced PvP. Anything above 496 will have its stats lowered (like for challenge modes). PvP gear still keeps it's PvP power, so a fully decked-out heroic raider in BiS PvE gear, will have the same identical stats as someone in Tyrannical gear, only the player in Tyrannical gear will have X amount of PvP power on top of their other stats.

PvE'rs and PvP'ers will take the same amount of damage; PvP'ers will do more damage.


In world PvP, Heroic raiding gear will be better than PvP gear. (But this will actually increase World PvP participation -- it'll be more 'world' and less 'whoever nearby who has PvP gear in their bags').

[c2dholla619]

ok i can see that... makes more sense now. thx

[Mormolyce]

In world PvP, Heroic raiding gear will be better than PvP gear. (But this will actually increase World PvP participation -- it'll be more 'world' and less 'whoever nearby who has PvP gear in their bags').

I bet there's more people out there in Pandaria with a Conquest set than a Heroic raiding set, at least on my realm. Just saying.

[Snuggli]

I bet there's more people out there in Pandaria with a Conquest set than a Heroic raiding set, at least on my realm. Just saying.

All raiding gear will be viable though. The only people who might struggle will be people in LFR or lower, but that will just be like having the honor set on.

It'll definitely increase the amount of people likely to engage in World PVP; Just PvP'ers won't have the advantage.