Clearly you just hate Paragon, but I'll bite. You were saying that Sanitas is better because they killed it with less attempts and less ilvl. Paragon had to develop the strategy, and they progressed for a while on one that didn't work. If the first strategy was the one that worked, it is likely Paragon would have killed the boss in the same amount of time as or less than Sanitas.
I see your point, but most people don't see it that way. Many guilds take pride in having a high best time spent raiding per boss kill ratio, but rankings are based on the date of the kill.
If you actually think a guild who was world rank 33 last tier is going to be considered as good as Paragon who's been at the top of raiding the past 3 years you need to open your eyes and realize that a guild has to be in the top rankings for a few tiers before they're considered a top guild. Sanitas made a huge jump yes but Paragon was the only 10man guild with any kind of proof of their skill, Moonz and Sanitas (not sure about Sanitas) made the jump to top 10man guilds this tier but they're still miles and miles behind Paragon when it comes to skill, commitment and credibility. If Sanitas can keep close to Paragon the next idk, 2 tiers then fine they'll officially be a top 10man guild but otherwise this is just gonna be a lucky shot.
Anyways congratulations on world second 10man.
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That clearly shows that Paragon just sucked hard on Ra-den. They basically had it all handed onto them on a plate, by killing Lei Shen 3 days before Method and all. And then they kill Ra-den a full reset after Method and on the same reset than Sanitas?
Too bad for them.
From what I've heard the only thing killing Ra-den requires is balls and since Method set the ball rolling everybody followed suit.
Paragon is the undisputed winner of the 10-man race this tier, no question. My point just is that blaming an overdue kill on using the wrong tactic isn't an excuse. (and this is my general view of things, not aimed at this tier specifically)
OT: Congratulations to Sanitas, you really caught me surprise.
Oh, we can. Given how wowprogress also tracks kill dates of Lei Shen -> Ra-Den and ilvl of the raid. This is so clear, dont know whats so hard to understand... Paragon whined they lack gear compared to 25 mans, a less geared guild killed it in fewer attempts.... ????.... profit.
Success is what makes you big, top raiders make the same mistakes like your average guild... they just invest lots of more time and effort.
Last edited by mmoc59b5827c7e; 2013-04-21 at 04:16 PM.
exorsus killed it, guess were see a video today
Just release the videos already thats all I care !
Why make new threads about 4th place, and a 10man guild that for once have a kinda "fast" kill. They weren't even top50 last tier, so either the 10man version of the entire raid aint that hard?
But I'll be happy to see more random guilds putting up that they killed Ra-den, heck why not every guild put up that they have killed Jin'rokh the Breaker? 22041 Guildes have killed him on normal difficulty, why not make 22k new threads about that also? Anyone wanna start?
OT; How good for them, if you raid as much as they do, they should have gotten the kill weeks ago, but they aren't as good as Paragon is (10man ref.)
So who gonna make the thread about the Russian guild that killed Ra-den 30minutes~ ago? I wanna se more pathetic threads
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Why did they need that? BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT 12/12HC ON FARM AS FAST AS PARAGON. Why? Because they aren't skilled enough