Okay, yeah, I can see that being an issue. But I would also assume that any situation of economy change (duping items/gold) that the offending items would be removed. If they knew such a dupe/hack occured, they know what to remove.
Okay, yeah, I can see that being an issue. But I would also assume that any situation of economy change (duping items/gold) that the offending items would be removed. If they knew such a dupe/hack occured, they know what to remove.
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Is you can do the crime, you can do the time... When you have served your time, you can play again... A permanent ban is a LOOOONG time, hence the word "permanent"...
I've played since early TBC and have never gotten a single warning, let alone any bans.. Why? Because I don't break the rules I have I have click "Agree" on, every time a new patch is applied..
Stop breaking the rules, and you won't get banned.. When you come here (or other places) to bitch about bans, you never tell the whole story..
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Wow chazus, I was actually interested in this thread. It's a pity the CircleJerk nearly busted a nut...
Blizzard isn't perfect and your right in that some cases they will reverse their mistakes. I agree on your point though and I've never been banned.
Your idea on a probation of playing 1 account for a certain time / good manners would allow you receive your previous account back is excellent.
I like the part where people bitch and carry on about people who are banned for Language or harassment. It's like they think if their on a different account they might behave differently
Sure and thanks to that anecdote I am now totally convinced that most account bans are handed out to people who don't deserved it all. JK.
That system is already in place. Call them - appeal.
I can't think of any valid reason.
It makes them more money to just leave accounts banned (most people are addicted and will just buy new accounts).
Blizzard isn't dumb. This isn't about ethics/morals. They're a business making money.
The 'injecting economy' thing could easily be worked around by simply adding the criteria of... All amnesty accounts are stripped of all gold and boe's, effectively making it impossible to do anything shady money-wise.
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IT'S ALWAYS BEEN WANKERSHIM | Did you mean: Fhqwhgads"Three days on a tree. Hardly enough time for a prelude. When it came to visiting agony, the Romans were hobbyists." -Mab
seems like a nice idea
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I can't believe this thread is still going on. No, absolutely not, I don't care if you were banned for spamming trade with how much you love your kitten. You were banned, you were deemed to be damaging the community, and that particular account will never again be a part of that community. No, really now, we get it. Some people get banned for silly things, and behave themselves now; can't they just pay to get one last chance? Nope, sorry. But there will be restrictions to make sure only truly good people get to do this! Well in that case...
NO!
So you are saying people should basically be allowed to bribe Blizzard in order to get their accounts back? No. Just no.
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What is the point of account bans if people are able to buy their way out of them? That defeats the entire point of banning players.
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It is funny how you are telling others they didn't read your post. Did you read your post? Did you even read the responses? Allowing players to buy back their banned accounts removes consequences for breaking the rules or at least mitigates them. If you think people won't take full advantage of this you are kidding yourself and quite ignorant. Most people who get banned know damn well what they were doing was wrong.
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Because a forum is totally like a subscription based mmo people pay for. Right. Ok. People who get banned here aren't impacting people who pay for a game and expect cheaters to be dealt with. Letting cheaters come back for ANY reason after a perm ban is just flat out pants on head stupid.
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IMO if they were to have a system like you suggest, it should be much more harsh. 100$ fine, the active account should have no past offenses on it period, and if either the current active account or the banned account breaks the rules, both accounts are locked permanently and cannot be re-opened.
I'm curious. Why would a gold farmer/botter, who has not done either of that on a new account for a year+, suddenly start doing that again on the old amnesty account? The people who broke the rules would -already- be back in the game. If they were planning on doing bad things, they'd already be doing it. Not waiting for an old account to use.
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I don't know, I have mixed feelings about it.
I've met far too many horrible people online, from just plain rude players to scammers and downright hostile people.
But I've been granted amnesty myself, not from the actual game (as I have never been banned from WoW) but from the forums.
I posted a mage post in the general section of the forums, as I knew it would take days to get answers in the mage section. Two pages of flaming and hostile people telling me to go kill myself for doing such a thing got me so mad I started offending them back. Clever people , naturally they reported me and got me permabanned from the forums.
After a month or two I found it quite hard because I was so used to using the forums to get answers and feedback. I wrote an apologetic mail to Blizzard stating the nature of my ban, why I did what I did and asked them if they could find it in their hearts to forgive me. Thankfully they understood, and granted me amnesty, restoring my full right to post and reply on the forums.
I think if the cause of your ban isn't too horrible and you show both regret and a will to change, then yea I think Blizzard should .. at least give a trial run to banned accounts. But some people never learn I'm afraid. Some people live to cause pain. We've all seen it, on the forums, on youtube, in-game, anywhere. People just stirring up trouble and causing havoc just because it amuses them. These types of people are often clever, and I'm sure they can easily fool blizzard just to get another month of making other players feel miserable.
But being banned from the forums did teach me a great lesson! I learned to never be stirred by such people. Naturally if someone is hostile to me or steals loot from me I will get upset, but I've learned never to go down the path that leads to hateful discussion or flaming. I've learned to shrug those kinds of troll off, simply ignore them and not rise to their taunts.
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I would say no because it would cause a rush of threads about how Blizzard is just trying to profit from the game and banning people unjustly to try and get them into this amnesty program, much like the current general view toward server transfers.
And also because no, if you did enough to get banned, you should stay banned. And if the program has you make a new account, why not just stick with that one?