Last edited by Reeve; 2013-07-12 at 03:18 PM.
'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
uhm i´m not too sure, but didn´t the ones now at power declared sharia law again? ... i don´t think that´s really any better
and for all craziness ghaddafi was known for he actually tried to work for a better and stronger africa (at least if i can trust my best friend) so yeah, don´t take my word for fact, it´s what i heard, literally
You don't know that. I could be a gerbil!
Oh it's most certainly irrational prejudice. I won't argue against that. Despite my mocking, Mayhem is correct. I am quite paranoid. But frankly, I couldn't stop being paranoid if I wanted to. The world makes a lot more sense when you just assume that everyone wants you dead.Do you think your post I'm quoting is the result of a sound, reasonable judgement, or more the irrational rant of prejudice and misinformation? I'm talking to you honestly, don't take offence of anything, please. Just... Read again what you said.
Why would anyone hate someone else for no reason?
If I were Total/ENI, I'd sure as hell want to get that rebellion over with ASAP. I'd also probably prefer to avoid the rebellion in the first place. That rebellion was extremely expensive for oil companies (and oil company contractors like mine).
Either way, the oil in Libya doesn't detract from the positive aspect of kicking someone out of power that was killing his own citizens.
Last edited by Reeve; 2013-07-12 at 03:48 PM.
'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
I honestly think it was just Bush wanting to finish what daddy started. And I think it's quite possible he believed his own stories about WMDs. I don't think it was a lie, so much as a failed justification.
But yeah, I was very much against that war from the start. Seemed very much out of left field. Honestly though, the "America always goes to war to get resources from poor countries" crowd will always point Iraq out, even though it wasn't American oil companies mostly that have been redeveloping Iraqi oil fields. They'll make similar claims about Afghanistan even though the resources weren't found until after we were already in the country for a while, and China is the one getting the most access. Hell, I've even seen some people say we invaded Afghanistan for the opium, for goodness sake.
'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
No not really. Why would you think that? Are you making an absolute statement like "no war is fought over resources"? Or are you saying "based on facts this war was about removing a dictator"? Cause there are facts that point at a resource based invasion too you know? Involvement of foreign oil companies during the war, international deals before and after the war, the race towards reconstruction, the unused refinement plants...
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"Resources" doesn't mean "oil" only. Going to war to abuse of land through investment doesn't make the war any more justified...
i´m still not to sure if it wasn´t just for preserving the status quo, namely petrodollar... so it musst not have been for the ressources itself but in what currency they are traded
it´s weekend guys and i´m going to get wasted, read you tomorrow, have a good one
Whether or not the war was "about" resources, it would be stupid of the oil companies not to take an active interest in it. Oil company involvement is not in any way proof that the war was about the oil.
Can you explain what you mean by this?"Resources" doesn't mean "oil" only. Going to war to abuse of land through investment doesn't make the war any more justified...
'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!