Originally Posted by
tibbee
Back in Vanilla, there was no VP gear, no LFR, no easily accessible craftable epics, no dungeon finder, 5 mans were actually challenging, etc. The only way to gear up a raider was through actual raids, so guilds had no choice but to gear up newer members that way. They added all kinds of ways of gearing up outside of raids so that people wouldn't have to be carried and so that raiders wouldn't get burned out constantly having to run older content to gear up new people.
Someone who isn't willing to take the time to gear themselves up through the easily accessible options and instead expects to join a guild and have them carry them through content that is no longer relevant to the rest of the raid is being both lazy and selfish. Plus, why would a guild expect someone that won't put the effort in before applying to continue to put the effort in after getting geared and becoming a main raider?