What you don't seem to understand is the fact that NA / EU 10 man raids are different than AZ 10 man raids. They still have the same system as we had in Wrath, where 10 man is both easier and drops worse gear than 25. This guild apparently went 13/14 Heroic in 25 (still damned impressive) but then went into their 10 man version (which is easier and tuned lighter) and used their OP 25 man gear to get the kill.
That's the controversy here.
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World first to the chinese, i dont give a rats ass who become second,
Stop the EU/US vs Aisian stuff
Last edited by Darsithis; 2013-09-29 at 10:03 PM.
lets stop this.
and wait for a 25man garrosh hc kill.
mods already warned ?twice?
stop this asia vs eu/us war
Riggnaros: BL WORLD FIRST GARROSH INC!
Method: FU! Method world first!
Paragon: you guys are silly
STARS: I can't hear you over the sound of world first [Heroic: Garrosh] "achievement earned" sound
An unknown Chinese guild: sup guys how you doin'
Ensidia: someone just did Madness of Deathwind heroic? gratz!
What have i done
but yeah i think BL is totally getting the next kill. They are long overdue for an EU/US first end boss anyways.
Last edited by Orcindauh; 2013-09-29 at 09:52 PM.
Apply blizzards model to any other subscription service,you'd be outraged:
Netflix adds no new movies for a year, you click a new movie, there's a $5 fee.
You're in an accident, click your onstar button, but there's an addition $20 fee for them to help.
You turn on your tv only to find all you get are the infomercial channels. Every other show is pay per view.
See how dumb that model is?
To be fair. We need to distinguish between Asia and West due the different system both zones have. They might have gotten a world first, but to be fair, it's kind of a sleezed worldfirst since they have higher itemlevel than what you can possibly get on West, ergo, you cannot really compare the two.
They have gotten East First, West first still has to come.
Stop the EU/US vs Asian stuff
Last edited by Darsithis; 2013-09-29 at 10:03 PM.
It's over boss died first time ever in the world! Waiting on world 2nd from method now
Stop the EU/US vs Asian stuff
Last edited by Darsithis; 2013-09-29 at 10:03 PM.
What did you expect? Any hardcore Asian guild that decides to farm 25man but focus on getting the kills for 10man will eventually get World's first. It's just that much easier.
What result do you get when you search "Lich King heroic world first" on Youtube? The 25man kill. Not the 10man kill. Because the 10man heroic kill back then in Wotlk had the same meaning as the normal kill, a way to check out tactics and content before dealing with the real deal.
If you want to go into details I am sure that Blizzard testers had already killed Garrosh heroic while testing the boss fights before the patch was even released.
I am sure they test to make sure certain abilities work and that his death animation works, but I don't think Blizzard is paying people to test the heroic content to make sure it can be killed. From what I heard I thought Heroic Ragnaros, from Blizzards view, was unkillable and was nearing to receive nerfs when a group found a way to kill it. Also, wasn't yogg-0 the same deal? Mathematically impossible or something? Correct me if I am wrong, going off hearsay.
Bugs happen when you try a boss 30+ times with a 25man raid (like Death knight spell copying one of Sinestra's spells). I think Blizzard testing would be something closer to 3 people killing an extremely downtuned boss, essentially trying out if the boss is able to do his 'stuff' (change phases, summon minions, do emotes to the events, drop the correct loot etc.)
Rapid eye Movement and Not so Serious (25 Man) have both claimed kills on Siegecrafter Blackfuse!
Now I guess there has always only been the illusion of a world first race. It is however sad (IMO) how the game has branched off into so many incomparable difficulties. Asia =/= EU =/= 10 =/= 25
Neither of those can ever really be compared. The only race that still is kind of comparable seems to be Method versus Blood Legion. And even that one is often quite one sided.