Oh, that is because vanilla/tbc raider's were not as skilled.....or that is what some people in this thread would have you believe. I almost never post on this site but really cannot stand nonsense comments like that. On topic however, one must look at how different the game is now compared to then, things like class homogenization, continuous rehashed mechanics, add ons, time spent in beta, have changed the raiding scene so much from then to present. Do I think raiders are better now than TBC? Absolutely not. Do I thing the game and its players are given better tools to raid and in doing so make it more accessible to raid? Yes.