No, I am not taking responsibility for that. The ultimate consequence of your remark is that I, and you, and everyone would have responsibility to educate anyone we see playing badly. But WoW is not a society with an educational system; I am not being payed for that ... I have to pay myself. Instead, we have the ability to remove from LFR anyone the group deems not eligible for making the end of the instance. Which is a system I find pragmatic.
I do wonder if *you* take the consequences of your remark serious. It means you invest your time in anyone coming on your path in WoW that plays (in your eyes) badly. Do you? Really? Or are you of the school that thinks they 'teach people' by kicking them in LFD? As I argued before, that does not really teach them... so, try again.
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Highlighted some words I missed earlier. To the best of my knowledge, if there is a kick protection system, it only works in LFD. In LFR nobody is protected; dc-ed and afk people get kicked automatically and others that offend can be voted on in general if 4 people press the kick option on them.
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Danishpsycho>>This is the whole point of why several of us are annoyed by the approach some of you have tbh. If you accept the poor performance of players at low level, ignore that they are leeching, ignore that they are doing 15k dps as lvl 90, ignore that they afk, then you have no right to complain when you meet them in LFR at lvl 90, where they wipe you doing 30k dps, standing in fire, akf'ing or queuing as tank in PvP gear.
I was writing that this is not the same - but then I realise I dont complain about people not pulling their weight in LFR . I am fine with LFR, I just kick who causes my instance to take too long by not pulling their weight. And I am very accepting towards such, as I generally contribute a good performance myself so that others can afford to be slightly under par without the raid failing.
>> @Leonora: Some players in LFR do actually have a kick protection. I've had players that nobody could kick, where everyone got the same message when trying "player can not be kicked for 3 hours" or w/e crap message.
It's not about whether or not lowbie dungeons can be completed or not with one leech/bad, we all know they can. What really baffles me, is that some of you almost makes it sound like the rest of us are in the wrong for trying to improve the community by setting some standards.
>>1) It's not my responsibility no, but as a community you take on some responsibility to make the game a better experience overall - it's an MMO after all. How is the OP playing God in any way? How was he making everyone miserable by asking, why the dude didn't have a weapon equipped?
You and others keep playing this community-wide responsibility argument, but I cant take it serious so far. WoW is no society with an educational system in which people are payed to teach, and even in society you then have people not pulling their weight. How exactly would you execute this approach of yours in voluntary payed-by-yourself WoW? As I argued before, kicking in LFD does not do the trick, that message is way too ambiguous. So what then? Are *you* investing that huge amount of time needed to put this idea of you into action?
I can claim I am actually doing partly what you propose via my guild and on personal grounds when I feel like it, even though I deny this community-wide responsibility.