Gauging your reaction to "Lone Wolf" lvl 100 talent

[Sul]

It's certainly an interesting way of hamstringing your soloing ability...

ummm you wouldn't use it for soloing --changing talents around is easy and if your not doing it already you are not getting the most out of your Hunter ( or any class)

on topic -- Its a good option for some types of fights already ingame and I would expect more encounters in the new expansion will suit this talent

[3clipse]

I like the idea, but it invalidates too many talents at least partially. Spirit Bond? Can't use at all. Fervor? Part of it is wasted. Blink Strikes? Can't use at all.

If it changes their bonuses so that they do something, great! Otherwise, I'd like to see it changed.

[Funky Kong]

As for the 30% buff; people are overestimating it.

Stats are getting squished to BC levels. +30% damage with Burning Crusade DPS levels has a lot less impact than +30% damage with current DPS levels (800 DPS + 30% = 1040 DPS, VS 100k DPS + 30% = 130k DPS)

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I like the idea, but it invalidates too many talents at least partially. Spirit Bond? Can't use at all. Fervor? Part of it is wasted. Blink Strikes? Can't use at all.

They haven't even made an initial pass on the pre-100 talents yet. Things will change during the beta.

[ethzero]

As for the 30% buff; people are overestimating it.

Stats are getting squished to BC levels. +30% damage with Burning Crusade DPS levels has a lot less impact than +30% damage with current DPS levels (800 DPS + 30% = 1040 DPS, VS 100k DPS + 30% = 130k DPS)

30% is 30% no matter how you look at it.

[Rocknrule]

You forgot to subtract the pets dps. Your net gains will be much closer to 5-10% dps buff, but please lets not focus on the numbers as that is retarded at this point.

[Deleted]

What exactly is good about not having a pet?

[Rocknrule]

What exactly is good about not having a pet?

Pet pathing.

[Sylreick]

What exactly is good about not having a pet?

Not having to deal with the little bobbling nut job that always has to follow you. Personally, I've always wanted an actual "Archer" class or spec, not having to deal with anything but my actual character. I'm glad that they're providing the option, and I might actually play a hunter. One of the reasons I rarely touched hunters was the pet, same with warlocks, and why I dislike frost mage so much.

Hopefully it remains a viable choice (as in not dwarfed in damage by the pet-centric options).

[Rocknrule]

Ok, I have a question. Can anyone give me a logical reason why this should not be tied to a spec instead of a talent?

[Cyrops]

Can't wait. But it has a LOT of caveats, hope Blizz will do this properly.

[Funky Kong]

Ok, I have a question. Can anyone give me a logical reason why this should not be tied to a spec instead of a talent?

Because then that spec would be forced to pet-less.
What if you forced MM hunters to be pet-less but some of them wanted a pet for utility?

What if you forced Affliction locks to be pet-less and they wanted to use a succubus for PvP?

[Rocknrule]

Because then that spec would be forced to pet-less.
What if you forced MM hunters to be pet-less but some of them wanted a pet for utility?

What if you forced Affliction locks to be pet-less and they wanted to use a succubus for PvP?

Then they go SV for a nice hybrid between MM and BM that offers pet utility and strong shots. Then you give the MM hunter more utility through shots or other various means, thus de-homogenizing the specs.

[Invictus9001]

Because then that spec would be forced to pet-less.
What if you forced MM hunters to be pet-less but some of them wanted a pet for utility?

What if you forced Affliction locks to be pet-less and they wanted to use a succubus for PvP?

Mages are forced to be pet-less in Fire and Arcane specs. What if I want an Arcane minion like the Kirin Tor familiar? :P Not to mention a fire Elemental for PVP? (end sarcasm)

Personally, I see it getting nerfed hard, quickly, unless using something like Dire Beast/Murder of Crows/Stampede invalidates the "pet-less"ness of the hunter and thus negates trying to stack those CDs then actually pop a pet out. Saw it as soon as I read the talent here.

[Mormolyce]

Well some people definitely wanted it, so there you go. I hope it won't wind up being the default spec because LOLOLOL pathing UI suxks!

Good to see it doesn't mean BM sacrificing their pet either.

[TrollShaman]

I don't know about the others but I really like pet classes despite some of their shortcomings such as pathing issues.
It's a nice level 100 talent for those who prefer to go petless (which judging by the poll a lot does), but I'll stick to other talents if I do go MM or SV.

To be honest though I'm not surprised if Blizz will nerf Lone Wolf in the same vein as Grimoire of Sacrifice.

Good to see it doesn't mean BM sacrificing their pet either.

I always thought GoSac Demonology is just... too odd.

[Xalzel]

I may jsut play a hunter because of this change. I HATE pets, I find that they get in my way and if given the choice I prefer not to use them.

[Paulosio]

It's certainly an interesting way of hamstringing your soloing ability...

You can change a talent whenever you want. If you want to solo and think this will be a hindrance Change the talent.

I change my talents and glyphs for soloing already.

[Deleted]

I guess it won't be competitive with the other options. According to Blizzard, they also didn't want warlocks to always play without a pet. By adding GoSac they only wanted to help out classes on fights where your pet bugs around (e.g. Deathwing). In a normal case a pet class will always be a pet class.

[Dristereau]

Bout time. I love GoSac on my Warlock, and would love to play MM Hunter without a Pet. However, given pet's have raid buffs I'm sure you'll be forced to use one in raids unless they change it

[endersblade]

I'm kinda between the last two options. I don't think I'll use it, as I've been a BM hunter since Vanilla. But it IS really freaking cool that they finally made an archer/sniper/ranger sort of thing. No pet, just straight up archery. Very cool.