General WoD Alpha/Beta Discussion

[Chickat]

@ZaulTV @Rygarius not currently planning any PVE-focused balance hotfixes. Rather focus as much energy on WoD dev as humanly possible.

Blizzard hiring robots to work on wow Confirmed.

[RippedLife]

HIRE MORE POEPLE AND DELAY THEN ANYWAY cause maybe could have made it better löl jk fuck everyone

[Dawnseven]

Ofc what's always interesting is even without Beta Blizz keeps giving more and more info. Basically never know what to expect week to week. I don't think anyone saw Fem Nelf coming this week.

See, this is what I cling to. There might very well come a point that we're so inundated with info we can't keep up.

New character model reveal! (kick to the shins)
Garrison Blog # 1! (punch to the gut)
Datamining, datamining, datamining! (left, right, left)
Two more models! (black eye)
Garrison Blog # 2 ... with # 3 the next day! (kick to the nuts)

etc, etc. LOL

It could happen.

[Zeakeal]

HIRE MORE POEPLE AND DELAY THEN ANYWAY cause maybe could have made it better löl jk fuck everyone

Tourettes?

[Chickat]

See, this is what I cling to. There might very well come a point that we're so inundated with info we can't keep up.

New character model reveal! (kick to the shins)
Garrison Blog # 1! (punch to the gut)
Datamining, datamining, datamining! (left, right, left)
Two more models! (black eye)
Garrison Blog # 2 ... with # 3 the next day! (kick to the nuts)

etc, etc. LOL

It could happen.

The week alpga was announced info was streaming in at a nice rate. I want it to always be like that.

[Zeakeal]

It would help if there was less fear about wording things wrong or making "promises". Its really a no win situation.

[Krazzorx]

We do get at minimum 1 large piece of news every week. Who its big to is subjective, but things like female night elf reveal are big to many people, even if its not for MMO-C folks on average. Even things like the LFR changes are unimportant to some people.

Anyways on a different but related note: @Dolsonwow should have some news on Bigger Bag soon. (The achievement)

[Feefel]

I was giving Blizzard the benefit of the doubt and saying that this obvious delay wouldn't hurt their game as much as people thought.

Now I'm pretty positive that there will be a major MAJOR sub loss that WoD might not be able to fix.

I mean, Wildstar is pretty hyped up and if Blizzard doesn't retaliate with something that is just more subs out the window. (That being said I know W* isn't everyone's slice of cake.)

[ATZenith]

Blizzard hiring robots to work on wow Confirmed.

might be the only way to see WoD done in time

[Krazzorx]

New theory: they are going to do a 2nd info dump to coincide with the actual Alpha launch. That's where the new build will be and where the garrison blogs will be.

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They are hinting at too much for something to not happen soon. About a week ago they started answering tons of class questions about things that have changed.

[Dawnseven]

Since WoD news is so thin, anyone got thoughts on this? http://www.gamespot.com/articles/top.../1100-6419543/

[Krazzorx]

Still think HD versions of WC RTS games.

[wych]

Still think HD versions of WC RTS games.

I'd pay good money for these, and maybe a few bonus missions on the side or potential for DLC

[CosmicGuitars]

Since WoD news is so thin, anyone got thoughts on this? http://www.gamespot.com/articles/top.../1100-6419543/

It's just going to be Overwatch, whatever that may be.

[IKT]

HIRE MORE POEPLE AND DELAY THEN ANYWAY cause maybe could have made it better löl jk fuck everyone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software Engineering is a book on software engineering and project management by Fred Brooks, whose central theme is that "adding manpower to a late software project makes it later".

[Zeakeal]

I'd pay good money for these, and maybe a few bonus missions on the side or potential for DLC

I don't think i like the idea of DLC for story. Its kind of a dick move.

[wych]

I don't think i like the idea of DLC for story. Its kind of a dick move.

Well given it's set pre-WoW I was talking more about side missions to expand on story at the time of WC3, as opposed to present day stuff

[Zeakeal]

Well given it's set pre-WoW I was talking more about side missions to expand on story at the time of WC3, as opposed to present day stuff

Oh I'm talking about expounding past story too, Blizzard has always patched more story in, even the map side campaign in frozen throne. I wouldn't pay extra over and over for little mission slots. That's a EA Gig.

[wych]

Oh I'm talking about expounding past story too, Blizzard has always patched more story in, even the map side campaign in frozen throne. I wouldn't pay extra over and over for little mission slots. That's a EA Gig.

Yeah, i'd rather not pay, but the way the gaming industry is these days, paid DLC would be the most likely type of update

[Aboubacar]

#Warlords of December, trending

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software Engineering is a book on software engineering and project management by Fred Brooks, whose central theme is that "adding manpower to a late software project makes it later".

Correct, we won't see results from the 40% increase to the WoW team until at least the next expansion, maybe even longer depending on the learning curve for some of their departments.

However, they could have at least handled it so the expansion didn't take longer (much much longer) and was released at relatively the same speed as usual.

Another super interesting part of that book's wiki page is this and I thought of the Jade Forest, and potentially the redone WoD starting area:

The pilot system[edit]
When designing a new kind of system, a team will design a throw-away system (whether it intends to or not). This system acts as a "pilot plant" that reveals techniques that will subsequently cause a complete redesign of the system. This second, smarter system should be the one delivered to the customer, since delivery of the pilot system would cause nothing but agony to the customer, and possibly ruin the system's reputation and maybe even the company.