Building first PC for WoW ultra

[Deleted]

Ohai, i stil have to build my first PC and this is what i wanne buy so far. i want to play WoW on ultra settings without any lag whatsoever even in cities.
i'd like your opinion on this, and can some peices bottleneck and do all peices work together or are some just plain overkill? the PSU is overkill i know, meby for some expension in the future :P
Do i need more GPU memory or is 2GB enough?

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K
CPU: cooling: Noctua NH-D14
Case: Cooler Master Haf X (should i get a Noctua NH-D14 to compliment the case?)
GPU: MSI GTX 770 Twin Frozr OC 2GB
MOBO: MSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming (DDR3)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb 1600 MHz (DDR3)

PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series 850-Watt
Monitor: 38" 1920x1200
System: Win7 x64

Thanks for any usefull feedback
Best Regards,
Your fellow gamer

[Zharradan]

i wouldn't go with PNY gpus, they aren't reliable at all.

take a look at corsair professional series 750W for the PSU

also, this 38" monitor with only 1920x1200 resolution will loook poor, it has very low ppi.


that's my 2cents off course

[JosephStylin]

Change the 3570k to a 4670k and swap the motherboard for a z87 instead of the z77 board (MSI, Asus, Gigabyte make great z87 boards) and you don't need a 750w power supply, a good 550w will be more than enough (XFX, seasonic, antec all make great PSU's). I'd post an actual build from pcpartpicker.com but I'm on my phone right now. I'm sure someone will be along shortly and give you a good build list.

[Deleted]

i wouldn't go with PNY gpus, they aren't reliable at all.

take a look at corsair professional series 750W for the PSU

also, this 38" monitor with only 1920x1200 resolution will loook poor, it has very low ppi.


that's my 2cents off course

ok so i did some searching and found a card 50eu cheaper and the difference is so tiny. MSI GTX 770 Gaming over the PNY one. thanks

also i went with stalin's suggestions, i5 4670k and a z87 mobo, guess im good to go then ? :P

[JosephStylin]

Ive noticed you haven't selected any storage either, you can either go with an SSD or a HDD or both, SSD's don't necessarily provide any performance increase in games aside from MUCH faster loading and general snappiness in the OS and boot times. The go to SSD right now is the Samsung 840 Evo (120gb or 240gb depending on how many games you intend to install) The go to HDD right now is the Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB (WD10EZEX)

The only other suggestion I have is to make sure the 770 you are buying has a non-reference cooler like this or this.

Here are a couple pictures of reference coolers for example.

[Deleted]

I built pretty much the same system (PNY 770, 4670k, msi z87 g45) with a stock cooler for the CPU and I can say that all settings (except shadows and sunshafts, because I don't like them) ultra in WoW gives me on average 60-70+FPS flying around Orgrimmar. This is, however, on a 1600x1200 monitor, during a relatively low traffic time of day. Also, since I run stock cooling I have my CPU and GPU running on out of the box stock settings.

[Saphyron]

Before I link many people here for some reason don't like EVGA. I have this gpu and I can only say good things about. really good things.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.97 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($204.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Platinum 650W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-16D1HT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($129.98 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer UM.VV6AA.C01 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($135.70 @ Mwave)
Total: $2016.55
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-23 21:49 EST-0500)

This build is slightly worse than my build since I have a I7-3770k but I have on average 120-180fps in shine of seven stars and 100-130 fps in stormwind. Overclocked my cpu to 4.2ghz this is on max settings.

Also steady fps of 50-70 fps in 25man raiding sometimes it spikes down but overall around there

Just for comparrison sake this is my build excatly
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($318.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($148.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($162.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Agility 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($135.48 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($135.48 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake Level 10 GTS (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($175.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: HP W2271d 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($129.98 @ Amazon)
Monitor: HP W2271d 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($129.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $2199.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-23 22:12 EST-0500)

There is plenty parts I wanna change out due to buying mistakes like the ocz ssd and the ram

[Deleted]

was planning on 120gb SSD and the rest just on HHD. the GPU has Twin Frozr cooler duno if thats bad :P

Thanks for all feedback so far, much appreciated

[JosephStylin]

was planning on 120gb SSD and the rest just on HHD. the GPU has Twin Frozr cooler duno if thats bad :P

Thanks for all feedback so far, much appreciated

Twin Frozr cooler is good, no worries there.

[Zharradan]

ok so i did some searching and found a card 50eu cheaper and the difference is so tiny. MSI GTX 770 Gaming over the PNY one. thanks

also i went with stalin's suggestions, i5 4670k and a z87 mobo, guess im good to go then ? :P

forgot about this thread sorry, yes, i think msi is a good brand. and you got a good combo of mobo+cpu. you are GTG. I would go with 750W psu because if you want to change your gpu next year or so you don't have to get a new psu, 550W is kinda low for todays energy comsuption and will be even lower for tomorrows hardware

[Fluorescent0]

forgot about this thread sorry, yes, i think msi is a good brand. and you got a good combo of mobo+cpu. you are GTG. I would go with 750W psu because if you want to change your gpu next year or so you don't have to get a new psu, 550W is kinda low for todays energy comsuption and will be even lower for tomorrows hardware

Wrong. Getting on par if not lower energy consumption is a thing every hardware maker is striving for. Don't get me wrong, there are exceptions, but generally any upgrade to a similar-tier item a couple generations later isn't going to cause any issues as far as the PSU is concerned, unless it's of course showing capacitor aging issues.

[Faithh]

I wouldn't go with the suggested builds here, way overkill/overpriced & too loud.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($62.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.97 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($134.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Arctic White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($101.98 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $912.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-27 22:21 EST-0500)

1) There's no better CPU for WoW than the 4670K
2) I've added a NH-u12s, a NH-d14 isn't needed at all and stick to aircoolers. AIO liquid coolers aren't quieter than aircoolers and they tend to have lots of issues.
3) That board is all you need, anything expensiver is a waste and they don't perform a tiny bit better.
4) 8GB ram is all you need
5) Added the 840 evo 120GB, if you think you need a bigger ssd then go for it
6) The green drive is just all you need, 7200 rpm's dont perform noticeably better and they make a lot more noise. Get a bigger one if you need it.
7) A 7850 would just perform the same as a 1000$ gpu in 25m raids/40 vs 40 bg's
8) Cooler master haf x cases are crap, extremely loud and awful build quality. Took a R4 instead which is quiet optimized and the build quality is superior over any other cases for the price. You can take a windowed version or a different color, up to you.
9) Usually 430W psu's dont have the correct amps on the 12V rail, but the 520W I took does and it's a seasonic :P

I wouldn't go with a 38" 1200p monitor/tv really, that's pixel counting.

[Deleted]

I wouldn't go with the suggested builds here, way overkill/overpriced & too loud.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($62.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.97 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($134.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Arctic White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($101.98 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $912.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-27 22:21 EST-0500)

1) There's no better CPU for WoW than the 4670K
2) I've added a NH-u12s, a NH-d14 isn't needed at all and stick to aircoolers. AIO liquid coolers aren't quieter than aircoolers and they tend to have lots of issues.
3) That board is all you need, anything expensiver is a waste and they don't perform a tiny bit better.
4) 8GB ram is all you need
5) Added the 840 evo 120GB, if you think you need a bigger ssd then go for it
6) The green drive is just all you need, 7200 rpm's dont perform noticeably better and they make a lot more noise. Get a bigger one if you need it.
7) A 7850 would just perform the same as a 1000$ gpu in 25m raids/40 vs 40 bg's
8) Cooler master haf x cases are crap, extremely loud and awful build quality. Took a R4 instead which is quiet optimized and the build quality is superior over any other cases for the price. You can take a windowed version or a different color, up to you.
9) Usually 430W psu's dont have the correct amps on the 12V rail, but the 520W I took does and it's a seasonic :P

I wouldn't go with a 38" 1200p monitor/tv really, that's pixel counting.

thanks for reply but i don't mind the noise, i'm aiming for durability and power

[Faithh]

thanks for reply but i don't mind the noise, i'm aiming for durability and power

They are durable/quality parts. Expensiver cpu's/gpu's will give you zero performance so no need to go with them.

[Krasuss]

They are durable/quality parts. Expensiver cpu's/gpu's will give you zero performance so no need to go with them.

lol says someone with 2xGTX780

the cpu is powerfull and might "carry" the pc in wow, but man 7850 is garbage especially the 1GB version...what are the chances OP wont ever want to try other games then wow?

imo the GTX770 will fit well in this rig.

[Deleted]

lol says someone with 2xGTX780

the cpu is powerfull and might "carry" the pc in wow, but man 7850 is garbage especially the 1GB version...what are the chances OP wont ever want to try other games then wow?

imo the GTX770 will fit well in this rig.

Then I would suggest not using the 4GB one, due to bandwidth shortages within the card being a limiting factor in some games (The GTX770 only has a 256-bit bus.)

[Krasuss]

Then I would suggest not using the 4GB one, due to bandwidth shortages within the card being a limiting factor in some games (The GTX770 only has a 256-bit bus.)

yea for sure, 4GB is useless on 770, but OP has 2GB version in his list so i wasnt concerned about that.

Also i would personaly go for different mobo and gpu brand...you cant really do wrong chosing ASUS or Gigabyte these days imo

[Faithh]

lol says someone with 2xGTX780

I don't even play this game.

the cpu is powerfull and might "carry" the pc in wow, but man 7850 is garbage especially the 1GB version...

imo the GTX770 will fit well in this rig.

Says the guy that doesn't understand what a cpu bound game is. A 7850 will perform the same as gtx 770/780 in 25m raids with ultra settings so your point is invalid. 1GB is plenty for wow and 770's aren't dealing well with 2GB anyways so another invalid point of you.

what are the chances OP wont ever want to try other games then wow?

Keep your predictions to yourself, he's asking a rig for WoW only.

Also i would personaly go for different mobo and gpu brand...you cant really do wrong chosing ASUS or Gigabyte these days imo

Asus owns Asrock and Pegasus makes their boards. Nothing wrong with Asrock though.

[Bigbazz]

If it was me, i'd get more memory. I'd also get a Windforce graphics card, they run quieter, cooler and use less power than pretty much everything else out there. Now I'm sure someone will find me a graph with something beating it in one of those areas, but in terms of all round performance the Windforce cards are right up there in every area and it's widely available... meaning it's not hard to find a great deal on one.

[SlyPaws]

i wouldn't go with PNY gpus, they aren't reliable at all.

take a look at corsair professional series 750W for the PSU

also, this 38" monitor with only 1920x1200 resolution will loook poor, it has very low ppi.


that's my 2cents off course

I totally agree, stick with a 23.1"-24' monitor. Asus led backlit 2ms ones are great! Also agree with the psu, I have the 750watt from corsair. Works great, Nice cables for management.

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was planning on 120gb SSD and the rest just on HHD. the GPU has Twin Frozr cooler duno if thats bad :P

Thanks for all feedback so far, much appreciated

120gb SSD is great. Install your OS and wow on it and you are good. Personally i have found that other games don't seem to load up as well as wow does on an ssd when compared to an HDD. Save money and get the 120gb.