[Movie/TV/Comic] Marvel Cinematic Universe: A place to talk all things Marvel

[Shadowferal]

Not even close. She took him down because she can manipulate the Soul Mind Gem in his forehead.


Scarlet Witch isn't that strong, Iron Man/Cap/Bucky/Panther/War Machine/Thor/Spiderman pretty much anyone with enough speed/agility to avoid her magic can take her on.

If you're going there then you probably think they can handle Dr. Strange too. (No...they couldn't)

[cyberglum]

Scarlet Witch isn't that strong, Iron Man/Cap/Bucky/Panther/War Machine/Thor/Spiderman pretty much anyone with enough speed/agility to avoid her magic can take her on.

Depends how far the MCU writers take her powers. If they go the way of the comics no amount of speed/agility is going to help when she can warp reality and reshape it so you don't exist anymore.

[Kelimbror]

Doctor Strange was incredible. I thought RDJ was the most perfect casting they had, but this is as good if not better. Visuals were out of this world and didn't feel tacked on. It was very fluid. For all the criticism of whitewashing the ancient one, they wrote the character perfectly to use Swinton. The movie just meshed well. Not a single actor out of place, not a single line feeling off. It was pretty much the Marvel machine to perfection.

If they can finally make a Thor movie that feels this good, we are in for a treat.

[Zeek Daniels]

I dont get why people keep bringing up white washing like its a thing in Dr. Strange. T

They changed the race/gender of TWO important characters. They changed an Asian Male into a White Female and changed a White Male into a Black Male. Yet no one talks about how Karl Mordo got changed into a black character. No one talks about how Wong stay an asian character. What are people even arguing? This isnt Gods of Egypt or the 10 commandments. Its 1 characters not an entire race of people being played by the wrong race. She isnt playing an asian character shes playing a celtic character.

God i hate people who are stupid.

[Gallahadd]

So am I the only one that was seriously disappointed in Doctor Strange?

[Immitis]

So am I the only one that was seriously disappointed in Doctor Strange?

What did you not like?

[Shadowferal]

So am I the only one that was seriously disappointed in Doctor Strange?

I was never a fan of Ditko's material but I admit I was looking for something resembling his stuff, if even briefly.

[Gallahadd]

What did you not like?

Tbh, Visually the film was EPIC, but it just wasn't what I was expecting, for a film about the Sorceror Supreme... I didn't go to see this film expecting an action film, so it felt super jarring to see Doctor Strange jumping about like something out of Crouching Tiger, solving all his problems by hitting people. I know it's far easier to make that look impressive than it is to make an interesting Magical Duel, but I was upset they didn't really even seem to TRY and do it.

Even The Ancient One (Btw, Tilda did a SUPERB job, fuck the haters), who is meant to be the Sorceror Supreme right now, resolved so many conflicts with her l33t kung fu skillz... I can ALMOST understand that a barely trained Strange would use simple spells and some martial training in his fights, because he doesn't know any better, but why the hell would the current strongest sorceror on our plane of existence ever need to resort to anything as crude as hitting people?


Also, for once I actually agree with the most common complaint about films in the MCU, the villain was SERIOUSLY weak.

Although one thing I will say for it: The two post credit scenes were awesome, Looks like we're getting some more Strange in Ragnarok... Because what that film needed was MORE Avengers XD. The real after credit scene with Baron Mordo breaking bad was great though, while I may have been disappointed in this film, the second one is already shaping up well.

[Immitis]

why the hell would the current strongest sorceror on our plane of existence ever need to resort to anything as crude as hitting people?

maybe to show restraint? just because something can be solved by magick doesnt always mean it should be

[RobertoCarlos]

The end Villain was weak. They could have at least sold us the eyes more. Only saw a pair of eyes twice I believe? They could have made it seem much more sinister with visuals. He looked like a video game boss.

[Sorshen]

Well, Dormammu is not really someone you can actually fight. In the movie he took more of a lingering threat/cameo role than anything else. He's one of the most powerful entities/spellcasters in the Marvel universe, and his reach is multiversal. He stood a chance against Eternity and he's arguably at least as strong as fully empowered Odin or Galactus.

[Arrowstormen]

Dormammu did still look pretty terrible though, I agree with that criticism (which is a fairly common one). Even more jarring when there's a lot of visually pretty things in it.

On the topic of fighting in the movie, all Marvel movies are basically action-comedies with some different spices thrown in, so that there is a lot of combat seems obvious. I thought the magic was used well enough and wasn't overly fist-fighty, but it did seem mostly focused on combat encounters, even when he was training, which is weird when he is really just there to get healed, and doesn't want to actually fight anything.

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you're probably right here. but i am going to hold onto hope that they can knock it out of the park again. James Gunn can do it.

Fixed it.

[TheSweetness]

Saw it last night. Movie was great. I want to see it in IMAX though. Visuals were amazing, all the acting was on point (still not sure about the Cumberbatch American accent). His girlfriend was incredibly forgiving and accepting of all the weirdness

[Shadowferal]

Well, Dormammu is not really someone you can actually fight. In the movie he took more of a lingering threat/cameo role than anything else. He's one of the most powerful entities/spellcasters in the Marvel universe, and his reach is multiversal. He stood a chance against Eternity and he's arguably at least as strong as fully empowered Odin or Galactus.

*nods*
Dormammu's very name is typically invoked to empower spells...that shows he's more of a "force" in the multiverse. (It's also why we couldn't get a better visual I suppose)
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As for the fighting...that made sense to me. I mean if everyone knows the concept of magic in Marvel, it always revolved around mind/body/soul.

I admit I miss any references to actually spells that were cast in the comics. No "Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth" or "by the Vishanti" or anything...*sniffles*

[Gallahadd]

maybe to show restraint? just because something can be solved by magick doesnt always mean it should be

That's true.

But in a film about Sorcerors, it would be nice if all the problems weren't solved in the exact same way that everyone else in MCU solves them, with physical violence.

This is the Sorceror Supreme we're talking about, she has a wealth of awesome spells at her disposal, saying she was just showing restraint by not using them and instead hitting people is kinda weak reasoning.

[Lucetia]

Looks like Deadpool 2 hasn't even started filming and Fox is already in the works of looking for stuff for Deadpool 3: http://screenrant.com/deadpool-3-x-f...ryan-reynolds/

[Jotaux]

I dont get why people keep bringing up white washing like its a thing in Dr. Strange. T

They changed the race/gender of TWO important characters. They changed an Asian Male into a White Female and changed a White Male into a Black Male. Yet no one talks about how Karl Mordo got changed into a black character. No one talks about how Wong stay an asian character. What are people even arguing? This isnt Gods of Egypt or the 10 commandments. Its 1 characters not an entire race of people being played by the wrong race. She isnt playing an asian character shes playing a celtic character.

God i hate people who are stupid.

I haven't really seen this complaint of white washing.

[Arrowstormen]

I haven't really seen this complaint of white washing.

I've seen it mentioned a few times.

[Gallahadd]

I haven't really seen this complaint of white washing.

Then clearly you've not been on Social Media much . Everyone lost their shit when Tilda Swinton was cast as Ancient One.

[Jotaux]

Then clearly you've not been on Social Media much . Everyone lost their shit when Tilda Swinton was cast as Ancient One.

No, don't have facebook and haven't looked at twitter in over a year.