thoughts on vegans

[Velaniz]

It is healthy, go live your life without protein and see what happens.

When you bring up protein thinking it's a valid argument, you've already lost. But you had to go one step beyond that and state that vegan diets didn't contain any protein at all. Well done.

[Deleted]

Potentially, yes.

The Wiki article on it is kinda interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience

Yeah just took a look at that, it's been separated into reasoning and into sentience.

[Velaniz]

I'm against causing unnecessary suffering to sentient life capable of experiencing such suffering.

I guess I'm vegan now guys.

It depends. Do your actions echo that sentiment?

[Deleted]

When you bring up protein thinking it's a valid argument, you've already lost. But you had to go one step beyond that and state that vegan diets didn't contain any protein at all. Well done.

I exaggerated the lack of it, but it certainly contains a hell of a lot less protein that what meat does. As others have said, you need to take supplements, you have to supplement your own diet because it cannot provide you with what you need.

[Lora]

Yes, meat is good for you. Eating 12 pounds of sausage isn't, sure. But meat, eggs, all that terrible stuff is quite necessary. Vitamin B12, for instance: As a vegan, you'd have to eat enriched food or take a pill.

I'm not going to tell you to start eating meat. But don't try to say that mean is bad for humans.

And? Yeah I guess cancer isn't bad for humans.

[Hubbl3]

And? Yeah I guess cancer isn't bad for humans.

Yes, because that how cancer works, lol.

[Thes]

And? Yeah I guess cancer isn't bad for humans.

My mind just blew.

[Deleted]

And? Yeah I guess cancer isn't bad for humans.

Potatoes the way people eat them are linked to a heightened risk of cancer. Should we stop eating potatoes the way we eat them because of "a heightened risk"?

[Thes]

And this is the only thread ever where I don't disagree with Mooneye

[Velaniz]

I'm inclined to believe it shouldn't be physically possible to chuckle at something like this so long as one's IQ is > 80.

[Deleted]

At the end of the day, animals kill animals and we are top of the food chain right now.

If anything due to our intelligence as a species we can use methods of killing that are less painful or faster, most people don't really give a shit though.

[mcgenius]

there is a theory that we are as smart as we are because of a large amount of meat in our diet from when we were primative man....the idea is our body or our hearts can only supply so much oxygen to so much of our body specificaly organs ...in order to digest vegatable matter we need larger intestines which means less available for the development of our brains ...change it to meat we need less intestine and we have to apply reason and problem solving to be more efficient at catching and killing animals allowing the development of our brains so going against this may cause us to stall or de evolve

p.s. i may have crappy grammar but i am no fool

[Zoaric]

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I suspect they'll even try to deny how ridiculously unsustainable and damaging the rate of meat production is in the world...
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I guess I'll humor you for a second.
Let's say that the world does, in fact, continue to populate at an equal or greater
rate than it currently does. And let's assume that all occurs as you said about
needing more meat and the like.
Thing is, we don't need all of the land you're proposing. Not one bit. See,
we can grow beef, pork, chicken, etc in a lab. It's safe (so far.) It'll just take
humanity adjusting to the idear of eating lab-meat. (Which might take a long time...)

That actually brings up a point... vegans, I have a question. To those of you who
are against meat because of all of the cute animals dying, would you eat lab-meat?
If not, why not? I'm actually really curious now. Please and thank you.

[Skulltaker]

Bingo. Right on the money. That is all that has been argued so far. Meat is tasty. That's it. It's not healthy, it's not needed to survive, it is simply "tasty". Why should billions of innocent creatures be slaughtered every year just for our personal tastes?

Why do we pave over trees and meadows for our comfort? Why do we pollute the air for our convenience? Because we are human, and it is in our nature. If nature didn't want us to consume meat, we'd have evolved differently. Again, the only reason a vegan diet exists is because of our overdeveloped morale. The benefits of that diet are nullified by the downsides.

[Deleted]

I'm inclined to believe it shouldn't be physically possible to chuckle at something like this so long as one's IQ is > 80.

124, sucks to be you.

[Hubbl3]

Potatoes the way people eat them are linked to a heightened risk of cancer. Should we stop eating potatoes the way we eat them because of "a heightened risk"?

Everything can cause you cancer. Lying next to someone you love in bed exposes you to a higher dose of radioactivity, therefor can cause cancer.

[Mouzfun]

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...eat-eggs-dairy yeah no. meat is not good for us.

Meat as a larger contibutor to daily diet != meat in general, meat isn't really some magical substanse, it's just micro and macro nutriens packet together by biological processes, that's it. I'm a vegetarian btw.

[Goondicker]

Meat alone does not cause cancer. Charring it can. Seasoning it can. Same with vegetables.

[Arkenaw]

Sooooo... has anyone been converted yet or are we all just getting a laugh out of this?

[Deleted]

Yes, because that how cancer works, lol.

"Cancer is most frequent where carnivorous habits prevail"
~ Scientific American, 1892

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YFS5...ONsRJ3UAOojZ0w