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[Arvandor]

this interview show that these profit assholes only defend their prized boost system.. nothing in this statements is true!

and are you realy believe they bring wod without all the revamp races? the december info was not an accident..

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this interview show that these profit assholes only defend their prized boost system.. nothing in this statements is true!

and are you realy believe they bring wod without all the revamp races? the december info was not an accident..

This, so much this. They're also closing down the EU forums bit by bit, by now we're down to 18~ sub forums, with the US still having 29 and now the Healing/DPS/Tank forums will go, on EU only.

They're basically cutting costs wherever possible while trying to charge us for anything they can possibly come up with.

[Tedstery]

This, so much this. They're also closing down the EU forums bit by bit, by now we're down to 18~ sub forums, with the US still having 29 and now the Healing/DPS/Tank forums will go, on EU only.

They're basically cutting costs wherever possible while trying to charge us for anything they can possibly come up with.

Look at you with your tin foil hat. Watch out they're out to get you!

[DrMcNinja]

This, so much this. They're also closing down the EU forums bit by bit, by now we're down to 18~ sub forums, with the US still having 29 and now the Healing/DPS/Tank forums will go, on EU only.

They're basically cutting costs wherever possible while trying to charge us for anything they can possibly come up with.

Solution: Play on the US

[Wayne25uk]

Solution: Play on the US

I would rather have hogger lick out my eyeballs while patchwerk gives me the reach around than play on a US server,idiot.

[Amnix]

• The biggest thing stopping players from coming back is leveling.

They should not destroy the game in the first place, so way they would not have to care about people coming back, since they would not leave.

[Pann]

If you have left wow then why the comments, and ALL should stop the doomslaying, wow is gonna be around for a LONG time get over it and move on nothing to see here

Aren't Blizzard and their army of self appointed PR gurus taking every opportunity to remind us that the boost is for returning players to catch up with their friends? And now when someone from the demographic the boost is allegedly aimed at comments on it he is told that as he is no longer a player his opinion holds no value?

[quras]

this interview show that these profit assholes only defend their prized boost system.. nothing in this statements is true!

and are you realy believe they bring wod without all the revamp races? the december info was not an accident..

Pretty much this.

It's like watching a used car salesman. Trying to hype features a car might not even have on release but on top of all that, they think the problem with people not returning is "leveling"

I don't think I've ever seen as many misguided people in one place as blizzard employees.

Aren't Blizzard and their army of self appointed PR gurus taking every opportunity to remind us that the boost is for returning players to catch up with their friends? And now when someone from the demographic the boost is allegedly aimed at comments on it he is told that as he is no longer a player his opinion holds no value?

QFT ^

[Siddown]

This, so much this. They're also closing down the EU forums bit by bit, by now we're down to 18~ sub forums, with the US still having 29 and now the Healing/DPS/Tank forums will go, on EU only.

They're basically cutting costs wherever possible while trying to charge us for anything they can possibly come up with.

I'm not really sure you understand how the interwebs works. Consolidating rarely used forums into a smaller number of more used forums doesn't cut any costs. If anything there is a cost (although it'll probably be negligible in the grand scheme of things) in doing so.

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Aren't Blizzard and their army of self appointed PR gurus taking every opportunity to remind us that the boost is for returning players to catch up with their friends? And now when someone from the demographic the boost is allegedly aimed at comments on it he is told that as he is no longer a player his opinion holds no value?

See, the problem is, the vast majority of the "I quit WoW, but I still want to complain" crowd on MMO-Champ have been complaining about everything about WoW long before the boost.

There are people on these forums who haven't played the game since WotLK yet they still come here every day and complain about it. Just sit and contemplate how insane that is for a second.

[Salech]

I'm not really sure you understand how the interwebs works. Consolidating rarely used forums into a smaller number of more used forums doesn't cut any costs. If anything there is a cost (although it'll probably be negligible in the grand scheme of things) in doing so.

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See, the problem is, the vast majority of the "I quit WoW, but I still want to complain" crowd on MMO-Champ have been complaining about everything about WoW long before the boost.

There are people on these forums who haven't played the game since WotLK yet they still come here every day and complain about it. Just sit and contemplate how insane that is for a second.

It is equally insane to defend everything a company does as well, it goes both ways.

[Pann]

See, the problem is, the vast majority of the "I quit WoW, but I still want to complain" crowd on MMO-Champ have been complaining about everything about WoW long before the boost.

There are people on these forums who haven't played the game since WotLK yet they still come here every day and complain about it. Just sit and contemplate how insane that is for a second.

They are still part of the demographic this boost is apparently aimed at and the fact they spend their time on MMO-C complaining about everything means that they are a better target for Blizzard than those that have quit and turned back completely on WOW. So why do you feel the need to dismiss and belittle their opinions?

It is no more insane than expecting someone who has not played WOW since Wrath is going to hand over money for MOP and WOD to play a game they stopped playing over four years ago.

[Deleted]

Doesn´t care, they are selling this expac with the new characters as a plus, so don´t having them for the release is an illegal move at least in Europe(selling things with misleading adversiting), they are fooling the clients with that publicity!

It's not illegal as it was clearly stated that not all models will be released at launch but through later patches.

In that context it's perfectly legal.

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Eh, I'm still of the personal opinion that Blizzard is saying 'Fall 2014' to give themselves wiggle room, because if we do see a September release date or later, that's an entire year with no new content, something Blizzard has stated that they've been wanting to seriously avoid repeating after Wrath, and to a lesser extent, Cataclysm.

I also think they didn't expect Ghostcrawler leaving, and people forget, he coordinated a lot at the same time, so they could have had a setback.

Meaning a August release could be September instead. We don't know that, but I really think personally, like you, september is most likely.

[Farabee]

Honestly, the leveling isn't the horrible part. It's the slow, weekly-locked grind for gear on every character you get to max level. Catch-up mechanisms like Timeless Isle are a good start but leave you far too low to participate in any real raiding.

I'd rather they go back to the last-patch model of WOTLK and Cata and give you a set of dungeons to grind that give you last tier's normal gear. I took a break during Cata after H-Firelands was on farm, came back halfway through Dragon Soul and was still able to get re-geared and clear heroic long before 5.0 hit thanks to the new instances dropping 378 gear. This time, I'm barely scraping at 543 ilvl and just starting normals through OpenRaid after almost 2 months of gear grind on my main and it doesn't feel like I'm going to take down H-Garrosh any time soon. Having to grind gear out through 4 versions of the same raid doesn't help either.

[Deleted]

Not in alpha ;< Predictable.

[tehdef]

They are still part of the demographic this boost is apparently aimed at and the fact they spend their time on MMO-C complaining about everything means that they are a better target for Blizzard than those that have quit and turned back completely on WOW. So why do you feel the need to dismiss and belittle their opinions?

It is no more insane than expecting someone who has not played WOW since Wrath is going to hand over money for MOP and WOD to play a game they stopped playing over four years ago.

Uh, what opinions? "WoW is gay. Boosts are gay" is not an opinion. It's a trolling attempt. The people who are criticizing aren't offering real problems. They are offering subjectivity at every opportunity. They are being petty, childish, and really not thinking through their perceived grievances with the system, other than not agreeing with it. I don't take people who act this way seriously, and I will gleefully disregard their opinions unless it's followed up with a well thought out and thorough response as to why they disagree with something someone has done, and hopefully includes and alternative design. I was always taught to never complain about something, unless I came up with 3 alternative solutions.

On the other hand, Blizzard is attempting to provide real factual evidence as to why they went with boosts. Somebody who hasn't played since TBC can get right back into the game at level 90, and not have to fight with level 20 levels through content that is disjointed, and honestly, goes way fast. Giving them a free 90 before an expansion is a pretty good deal, and it defeats a lot of the problems that exist for people coming back to the game.

Worst part is, most of the things you see about it are detractors. You don't see people who have used the feature to reconnect with their friends talking about it, because they are in game having fun. Furthermore, more people go to forums to bitch about things, rather than commend them. You should know this, because you post on a forum. MMO champ and the Official forums are full of negativity and toxicity. People mad about the most inane things, that shouldn't even cause a problem.

As a WoW player, I don't care about the boosts. If it gets more people back into the game play, that's a good thing. The only thing I'm upset with is Blizzards execution of the pricing scheme. In this case, I think that the upfront investment is also a major barrier in returning to the game. Currently they are making you buy MoP, and WoD + 15$ sub to get back into the game. Effectively, you're looking at 20 + 50 + 15 in the US. 85$ to play a game for 1 month? No, not really. In fact, that's 25$ more than infamous second son, and I get to play it longer than a month. The cost barrier to entry, is my personal biggest issue with the game.

If I was Blizzard, I would bundle the entire system as 1. If you buy Warlords of Draenor, you get everything. Vanilla, TBC, WotLK, Cata, MoP, WoD, all for 50$. If you are a new player, you get 1 month free. In addition, if your account has been inactive for more than 12 months straight, you get 1 free month. They would also still get the level 90 boost for anyone that purchases it. Point is, even if they only come back for a month, you get 50$ out of them. You'll get new players wanting to try out WoW, and you'll also get returning players who see a lower cost of entry. I don't know who is leading up the team at Blizzard, but I would definitely like to have a word with them. Lowering the cost of entry is going likely to bring more profits, not less.

[Enan1981]

LoL such a cop out excuse to discredit leveling now and the actual work they did to help leveling quicker. Kind of like when they first announced the authenticator, wasnt selling much, then boom, a lot of accounts suddenly were getting hacked... Sad to admit the reason I love the game is the history ive gone through it and the massive list of friends ive made throughout.

[Siddown]

They are still part of the demographic this boost is apparently aimed at and the fact they spend their time on MMO-C complaining about everything means that they are a better target for Blizzard than those that have quit and turned back completely on WOW. So why do you feel the need to dismiss and belittle their opinions?

Yes, but they are an incredibly small part of the demographic, and therefore their opinion shouldn't be taken out of proportion. What makes it harder to listen to them is that the lion's share of those same people get angry about everything in the game.

It is no more insane than expecting someone who has not played WOW since Wrath is going to hand over money for MOP and WOD to play a game they stopped playing over four years ago.

You are making a statement when it should be a question. Because I don't know the answer, neither do you. Personally, I know a few people who haven't played in years who say they are going to come back, where I imagine that someone who has been complaining for three plus years how Blizzard sucks and how they are just money grubbing a-holes will never come back. So based on my tiny sample, I'd say the boost is a good thing, but in reality that doesn't prove anything.

I think you're problem is you are equating a few dozen, avid angry posters on a private website with millions of people who have quit the game over the past few years. The people they are trying to get back to the game don't come to a place like this.

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It is equally insane to defend everything a company does as well, it goes both ways.

100% agree, I think Blizzard has done plenty of bad things game wise and have said so before. But come on now, I think we all know there is a difference. Just a few posts above someone accused Blizzard of hacking accounts to sell Authenticators, that's a whole different level of angry.

[Pann]

Yes, but they are an incredibly small part of the demographic, and therefore their opinion shouldn't be taken out of proportion. What makes it harder to listen to them is that the lion's share of those same people get angry about everything in the game.

I did not say that their opinion should be taken out of proportion however their opinion is equally as valid as yours or mine. So what if they are angry about everything in the game? Surely this is their problem? By replying and attempting to dismiss or belittle their opinion you are as bad if not worse than them.

You are making a statement when it should be a question. Because I don't know the answer, neither do you. Personally, I know a few people who haven't played in years who say they are going to come back, where I imagine that someone who has been complaining for three plus years how Blizzard sucks and how they are just money grubbing a-holes will never come back. So based on my tiny sample, I'd say the boost is a good thing, but in reality that doesn't prove anything.

I think you're problem is you are equating a few dozen, avid angry posters on a private website with millions of people who have quit the game over the past few years. The people they are trying to get back to the game don't come to a place like this.

No I am not. It is insane to expect that people who quit the game several years ago and have, to date, shown no inclination to return are going to be interested in returning to the game and interested enough to pay the box prices of MOP and WOD as well as a monthly sub fee just because they can skip part of the game.

[Keleri]

The game will be released in december and not even with all new models? WTF blizzard! you are fooling everyone then with your "new models at game release " campaing publicity! what a shame . Blizzard is now full of liars and lazy fucks!

I'm okay with them taking as much time as it takes* to get the models out, the ones we've seen look fantastic and I want that quality for ALL the remaining models. I remember the female worgen fiasco and I'm still worried about my female taurens.

*I do think that they must have some kind of broke-ass bottlenecked review procedure that it's taking them this long to get the work done. Single artists on deviantart can make amazing fully functional TF2 fan models in their spare time faster than Blizz can put out these new models.

[Siddown]

I did not say that their opinion should be taken out of proportion however their opinion is equally as valid as yours or mine. So what if they are angry about everything in the game? Surely this is their problem? By replying and attempting to dismiss or belittle their opinion you are as bad if not worse than them.

I'm worse than the guy who said blizzard hacked their own game to boost authenticator sales?

No I am not. It is insane to expect that people who quit the game several years ago and have, to date, shown no inclination to return are going to be interested in returning to the game and interested enough to pay the box prices of MOP and WOD as well as a monthly sub fee just because they can skip part of the game.

It may be insane, but I'm sure they did a bit more research about this issue than you. At the moment you are just expressing a view point based solely your own opinion. I have no illusions that Blizzard is a company that is trying to make money, and maybe their research is incorrect, but if they believe that it will help bring people back to the game (to increase long term profits), they have every right to try it.

If it fails, it fails.