How should we handle "revenge porn"?

[THE Bigzoman]

Saw this article on the Economist today.


http://www.economist.com/news/intern...iserymerchants

At least 3,000 porn websites around the world feature "revenge porn", the non-consensual publication online of explicit images, often by an ex-boyfriend seeking to wound. Yet victims often find themselves without legal recourse. How should revenge porn be punished?

Throwing a lawsuit at the people is a great start that should be done, but i'm thinking jail time should be thrown in as well.

[Boottybounce]

"Want to stop revenge porn? Just keep your clothes on!" -Rachel Johnson

all jokes aside... this is a good related article.

[Conspicuous Cultist]

So kind of like that situation where you hate your ex so much that you throw up vids of you screwing them on the internet?

Jail time seems pretty harsh, especially since it's of this nature it'd probably land them sex offender status. A lawsuit seems good enough.

So sayeth the internet council!

[THE Bigzoman]

So kind of like that situation where you hate your ex so much that you throw up vids of you screwing them on the internet?

Jail time seems pretty harsh, especially since it's of this nature it'd probably land them sex offender status. A lawsuit seems good enough.

So sayeth the internet council!

Depends. If the pics/vids were never meant to be shared and the holder does so anyway or steals it, thats enough for jail time.

[Conspicuous Cultist]

Depends. If the pics/vids were never meant to be shared and the holder does so anyway or steals it, thats enough for jail time.

Well it kind of implies that they both agreed to have it filmed in the first place at some point and time.

[LilSaihah]

Two parts to this.

Were they explicitly aware you were gathering data? If so, Facebook's rules. It is now their picture and they can do whatever the hell they want with it.
Were they not explicitly aware you were gathering data? Rape charges. Without knowing everything, they are no longer giving informed consent.

[Deleted]

Treat it like any other form of harassment or defamation of character, by the very virtue of its name "Revenge" is a means to belittle and demean your partner via the media shared for that purpose.

[THE Bigzoman]

Well it kind of implies that they both agreed to have it filmed in the first place at some point and time.

Does that justify distribution without consent?

[Tazila]

Well it kind of implies that they both agreed to have it filmed in the first place at some point and time.

Yup. And while a girl may hope that they're going to be with the guy forever, they also assume that the guy will never ever show anyone ever the pictures/video, or that they'll delete them when the relationship goes sour.

On the other end, it's seen more as a gift than a "for your eyes only" thing. And they can do what ever they want with the gifts they were given once the relationship was done, the videos still theirs.

They both consented to the filming, but at the end of the day, if she has a copy, and he has a copy, and he distributes it, that's his choice as to what he does with his copy. Yes, she's in it, she agreed to be in it. She didn't give out her copy, but he did, it's his copy to do with what he will. Right now the law hasn't caught up with the techonology available.

Imo, safer just not to do it, especially as technology becomes more and more prevalent to how we deal with our relationship issues.

[Deleted]

While this is really disgusting and low, I don't think people doing this can be punished unless they someone stole the photos or videos or took them without consent. But that's pretty hard to prove. Otherwise, agreeing to be filmed or your photos taken in these situations is like doing it in public.. can't really blame the people who happen the see it, just yourself.

[thatguy181]

It's really hard for me to feel bad for anyone who has their naked photos/videos sent out into the world when they willingly gave said photo to their SO (boyfriend, girlfriend, fiance, wife, husband, whatever). It's just like the engagement ring. The man doesn't get that back, it was a gift.

If you chose to make a gift of porn to your SO... that's your choice. Don't be surprised if they use the gift in a manner you didn't think they would later on down the road.

People need to realize that when/if they break up, it's probably due to the person being a DIFFERENT person than they were originally.

You don't meet a guy, decide he's the sweetest guy in the world, give him tons of porn featuring you, and then suddenly break up with him because "Oh, well, I was looking for someone a little less charming." No, you or your SO have changed as people and drifted apart. Depending on how well you both handle the breakup, it's obvious that one party or the other may try to "get back" at you.

I'd never give my wife pictures or videos of me that I wouldn't be OK with her having forever. I love her dearly, and hope we don't go through a divorce but if we do, I know it's because one of us have changed. She or I one wouldn't be the same people we are now and since I don't know the person she may become, I'm not comfortable giving that possible future person access to something that could be so damaging.

Anybody who tells you they need some video/photos of you in the nude to keep themselves happy or whatever is someone you REALLY don't want to be with.

[LilSaihah]

While this is really disgusting and low, I don't think people doing this can be punished unless they someone stole the photos or videos or took them without consent. But that's pretty hard to prove. Otherwise, agreeing to be filmed or your photos taken in these situations is like doing it in public.. can't really blame the people who happen the see it, just yourself.

Yeah that's a big part of it. Good luck proving that you didn't give consent to someone taking nudey pictures.

[Itisamuh]

Don't record what you don't want others to see; it's not that difficult a concept.

[LilSaihah]

Don't record what you don't want others to see; it's not that difficult a concept.

TIL you can prevent others from taking pictures of you while sleeping

[Conspicuous Cultist]

Does that justify distribution without consent?

They probably have some sort of law stipulation for distribution without consent in particular but I'm by no means a lawyer.

But yeah, if they both agreed to have it filmed then it's kind of on them if they later break up and one of them happened to have a really saucy S&M session filmed on their phone and later uploaded as a screw you to that other person.

Tazila explained it better than I did up at post #9

[MFDOOM]

Quick note for consistency: every proponent of banning revenge porn will be defending this Republican Chief of Staff Congressional Aide whose phallus was tweeted by a girlfriend that he broke up with.

Every person. No takebacks.

Also, I think making revenge porn illegal is stupid. Provided the affected party consents to the taking and transmitting of the pictures/videos, it's fair game. These people made these decisions, and I don't see why they should be ashamed of it.

[Tazila]

They probably have some sort of law stipulation for distribution without consnent in particular but I'm by no means a lawyer.

But yeah, if they both agreed to have it filmed then it's kind of on them if they later break up and one of them happened to have a really saucy S&M session filmed on their phone and later uploaded as a screw you to that other person.

Pretty sure if it's considered his property he gained while in the relationship as a gift, he doesn't need her consent on what to do with it, be it photographs, a dvd, a cellphone clip, hell even a car, doesn't need her consent to do what he wants with it REGARDLESS of her ties to the item.

[thatguy181]

Pretty sure if it's considered his property he gained while in the relationship as a gift, he doesn't need her consent on what to do with it, be it photographs, a dvd, a cellphone clip, hell even a car, doesn't need her consent to do what he wants with it REGARDLESS of her ties to her.

Ding, ding, ding. Winner.

Don't give out gifts and be surprised when the gift owner (AKA not you) does something with the gift you'd rather not have done or hadn't expected.

[Conspicuous Cultist]

Pretty sure if it's considered his property he gained while in the relationship as a gift, he doesn't need her consent on what to do with it, be it photographs, a dvd, a cellphone clip, hell even a car, doesn't need her consent to do what he wants with it REGARDLESS of her ties to her.

Pretty screwed up to do it but it just seems to be more of a personal thing you chose to do. To throw someone in the cell and then possibly slap him/her with sex offender status because of it is pretty screw up too.

Should there be a possibility of a lawsuit arising from it? For sure, but a jail cell is a bit too extreme, THE BIGzoman.

[Deleted]

If you're stupid enough to film to, you deserve it. We don't have to combat stupidity.