Nobel Prize Scientist TIM HUNT fired!

[GreatOak]

Weird how he, a relic from a bygone era, is getting so much scrutiny for a relatively benign comment as far as stupid shit goes, while people like Bahar Mustafa remain unchallenged.

[Revi]

I won't go into this because it's a completely different topic but black people have no power, privilege they cannot be racist since they were oppressed.

Can I make a prediction for your argument here?

You will present an altered definition of racism that specifically supports your argument rather than adhering to what the rest of society interprets it as, you're then going to use that new personal definition of racism to prove your argument correct, and then continue to use your own definition of the word racism in conversation without ever actually clarifying that you've replaced the meaning rather than simply using another word because you depend on the emotional charge that comes with it.

You've basically created a definition that fits what you want to describe and attached "racism" as the word for it, disregarding it's actual usage but taking full advantage of the power that word holds.

Am I close?

[Mehrunes]

You should watch Saving Private Ryan.

Ethics theory definitely doesn't declare that it's okay to sacrifice one person for the many.

And since it's not some universal doctrine obeyed by every human being, it's not really relevant. It's just one of competing views. And using a work of fiction as your argument? Really? Then I raise you a "counterargument" in the form of Watchmen.

[Sanguiris]

This comment is to say I'm not commenting on that matter. People like Shinra are a lost cause and aren't even worth it.

[Deleted]

Weird how he, a relic from a bygone era, is getting so much scrutiny for a relatively benign comment as far as stupid shit goes, while people like Bahar Mustafa remain unchallenged.

Thats true the hypocracy is dripping.

Nixx http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...ism-572818.jpg

This guy apologized she added on the pile.

[Deleted]

These overly sensitive people should have some tolerance training..couple of nails and teeth removed without anesthesia should do the job!

But seriously, the man is a scientist and nobel prize laureate in medicine. Meaning he has done more for mankind than all the useless fucks pontificating the issue together.

[Themius]

So he was fired over a joke? This is what happens when people bitch and moan enough about being "offended'. We're turning into a society that has to censor most everything to avoid "hurt feels".

It wasn't really a joke, he said that he was serious when he said it and meant it, but didn't expect it to be taken this far.

He said it because of his own experiences.

He told Today: "I did mean the part about having trouble with girls, I mean it is true that I have fallen in love with people in the lab and that people in the lab have fallen in love with me.

"It's very disruptive to science."

"I'm really really sorry that I caused any offence, that's awful. I just meant to be honest, actually."

[Mehrunes]

Can I make a prediction for your argument here?

You will present an altered definition of racism that specifically supports your argument rather than adhering to what the rest of society interprets it as, you're then going to use that new personal definition of racism to prove your argument correct, and then continue to use your own definition of the word racism in conversation without ever actually clarifying that you've replaced the meaning rather than simply using another word because you depend on the emotional charge that comes with it.

Am I close?

Oh, I like these. My favourite is making a separation between racism and racial prejudice. "So what that some people of color can have racial prejudice? At least they aren't racist (solely due to this definition making a distinction)." And of course their racial prejudice is only caused by them experiencing real racism to begin with.

[Jaxi]

"or something"

It doesn't even need to be an "or something." An absence of a privilege is not inherently negative, nor does it require special conditions. It's just that, an absence.

Now are you going to march out these examples for me to shoot down or what?

John Paul Dejoria.

[Pull My Finger]

But seriously, the man is a scientist and nobel prize laureate in medicine. Meaning he has done more for mankind than all the useless fucks pontificating the issue together.

Hitler built the Autobahn!

[Revi]

It wasn't really a joke, he said that he was serious when he said it and meant it, but didn't expect it to be taken this far.

He said it because of his own experiences.

I'm going to repost this, to avoid different interpretations and disregard for context.

“It is true … I have fallen in love with people in the lab and people in the lab have fallen in love with me and it’s very disruptive to the science because it’s terribly important that in a lab people are on a level playing field.

“I found that these emotional entanglements made life very difficult. I’m really, really sorry I caused any offence, that’s awful. I certainly didn’t mean that. I just meant to be honest, actually.”

“I’m very sorry that what I thought were light hearted ironic remarks were taken so seriously, and I’m very sorry if people took offence. I certainly did not mean to demean women, but rather be honest about my own shortcomings.”

[Deleted]

Burn him his personal experience is offensive.

You think he lied to make sexist remarks and things like that never happened?

[Puupi]

It wasn't really a joke, he said that he was serious when he said it and meant it, but didn't expect it to be taken this far.

He said it because of his own experiences.

An honest joke is a thing.

[Deleted]

I'm tempted to ignore your posts because they're getting sillier each time. The black person who experiences racism experiences it because they are black so YES, FUCKING ABSOLUTELY being black has EVERYTHING to do with his perception of racial issues.

And nowhere did I say that white people can't experience racism but certainly not from black people because being black means you can't be racist only prejudice.

i'm guessing you're a black racist sexist lesbian

[Concatto]

This is absolutely outrageous.

[Themius]

An honest joke is a thing.

He never said it was a joke. Everyone else but him is saying that...

[Kalis]

Weird how he, a relic from a bygone era, is getting so much scrutiny for a relatively benign comment as far as stupid shit goes, while people like Bahar Mustafa remain unchallenged.

Bahar Mustafa didn't remain unchallenged, everybody just laughed at her ridiculousness.

Plus she didn't hold a position that anybody gave a fuck about, so nobody cared if she carried on in it - student diversity officer at Goldsmith's is lower on the pecking order of importance than the dining room tray monitor.

[Exeris]

It wasn't really a joke, he said that he was serious when he said it and meant it, but didn't expect it to be taken this far.

He said it because of his own experiences.

This makes me think of the concentration issues I had in school because of all the cleavages and butt cracks.

[Deleted]

He never said it was a joke. Everyone else but him is saying that...

So it was an oppinion formed by personal experience. I mean if it was hard fact that it hindered him personally who are we to deny it?

So If somebody has a subjective personal experience that says there is no racism anymore is that offensive too?

[Puupi]

He never said it was a joke. Everyone else but him is saying that...

“I was very nervous and a bit confused but, yes, I made those remarks – which were inexcusable – but I made them in a totally jocular, ironic way. There was some polite applause and that was it, I thought. I thought everything was OK. No one accused me of being a sexist pig.”